▲ 422 ▼ Star Citizen Introducing a $48,000 Ship Bundle, but Only for Players Who Have Already Spent $10,000 (www.ign.com) submitted 2 years ago by L4s@lemmy.world [M, B] to c/technology@lemmy.world 182 comments fedilink hide all child comments Star Citizen Introducing a $48,000 Ship Bundle, but Only for Players Who Have Already Spent $10,000::Star Citizen developer Cloud Imperium Games is releasing a ship bundle for its controversial space simulator that costs an eye-watering $48,000.
[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 118 points 2 years ago (19 children) Only for Players Who Have Already Spent $10,000 This is so predatory in itself. permalink fedilink source hideshow 19 child comments replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 60 points 2 years ago (3 children) Just being eligible for it is a sign that you need to make some life changes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) If you can blow 50000+ on a video game they are doing something I'm not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago A good portion of them are just making bad decisions and ruining their finances. permalink fedilink source parent [–] littlebluespark@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago Like: shower, touch grass, rekindle an interest in humanity as a whole. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ale@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (11 children) Meh my sympathy only runs so far. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 33 points 2 years ago (10 children) You don't have sympathy for people with addictive personality disorders? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 36 points 2 years ago (5 children) On the one hand, my gut says "if they have 50k to blow and do so on a game, fuck em" On the other hand, my experience with addictive personalities knows they almost certainly don't have that money to blow, but they will do so anyway, fucking their life (and possibly their families lives) over even more in the process, and no amount of lecturing them will change, because they need therapy. My gut isn't as sympathetic as my brain is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Eylrid@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (3 children) There was a guy that posted on reddit about how he spent thousands of dollars on loot boxes. The way he totally wrecked his finances and his relationship with his wife was harrowing. Everytime he would get the latest and greatest item, character, whatever, they would come out with something new and he would start all over again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] fubo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) I have to wonder if this is a video game problem, or if it's a sort of financial self-destructiveness expressed through a video game rather than through some other means. Like, for every person who spends money they don't have on video games, how many people spend money they don't have on fancy cars, or clothing, or expensive pets, other luxury possessions? How many people spend the rent money on sneakers, or the kids' college fund on fancy vacations, or the utility bill money on anime figurines, or their whole paycheck on partying, or their retirement fund on too much house? Financial self-destructiveness seems to be a problem that some people have. It gets reported heavily when it's expressed through video games, in part because much of the reporter's audience thinks all video games are fundamentally pointless and evil to begin with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] erwan@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) The difference with in-game spending is that they use all the same shady techniques as casinos to exploit those people. You don't see sneakers shops offering time limited loot boxes for a chance to obtain limited edition sneakers, they also don't show you a big grid of their catalog with holes for the sneakers you don't own. "Just buy those 2 pairs to complete the collection of running sneakers!" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago You clearly have no idea what "sneakerheads" are, as these tactics and more DO exist and have for decades. Hell, little kids were getting murdered for their Air Jordans not 30 years ago, walking home from fucking school, son. permalink fedilink source parent [–] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Empathetic, to be fair. Sympathetic is to mirror their emotional state, etc. Empathy is to understand it without inhabiting that space/experiencing it yourself. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ale@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (3 children) Nah, if you're going to hide your bad choices behind clinical language, then you need therapy. If you're not getting therapy and you have 50k to spend, then that's a you problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 years ago Some people don't realize they have a problem. I feel bad for those people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) The problem isn't that they "have 50k to spend", it's literally the exact opposite AND that they don't know it's a problem that they spend out on stupid shit like this grift. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ale@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago If they spend 50k on a videogame, then they have 50k to spend by definition, whether or not it's actually their money. If it's not actually their money, then I have even less sympathy. I'll give another example. I have a lot of sympathy for opiate addicts. I have zero sympathy for opiate addicts who steal from their friends and family. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 7 points 2 years ago It's like the scammers who include spelling mistakes, to make sure they only attract the real dipshits. permalink fedilink source parent [–] erwan@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago Probably a way to avoid costly charge backs for when regular users purchase that by mistake permalink fedilink source parent [–] PersonalDevKit@aussie.zone 1 point 2 years ago It is the Ferrari model. You want a new Ferrari? Well you have to prove you have already owned several other Ferraris. Make people feel special while they hand over stupid money to you permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 60 points 2 years ago (3 children) Just being eligible for it is a sign that you need to make some life changes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) If you can blow 50000+ on a video game they are doing something I'm not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago A good portion of them are just making bad decisions and ruining their finances. permalink fedilink source parent [–] littlebluespark@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago Like: shower, touch grass, rekindle an interest in humanity as a whole. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) If you can blow 50000+ on a video game they are doing something I'm not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago A good portion of them are just making bad decisions and ruining their finances. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago A good portion of them are just making bad decisions and ruining their finances. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] littlebluespark@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago Like: shower, touch grass, rekindle an interest in humanity as a whole. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ale@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (11 children) Meh my sympathy only runs so far. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 33 points 2 years ago (10 children) You don't have sympathy for people with addictive personality disorders? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 36 points 2 years ago (5 children) On the one hand, my gut says "if they have 50k to blow and do so on a game, fuck em" On the other hand, my experience with addictive personalities knows they almost certainly don't have that money to blow, but they will do so anyway, fucking their life (and possibly their families lives) over even more in the process, and no amount of lecturing them will change, because they need therapy. My gut isn't as sympathetic as my brain is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Eylrid@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (3 children) There was a guy that posted on reddit about how he spent thousands of dollars on loot boxes. The way he totally wrecked his finances and his relationship with his wife was harrowing. Everytime he would get the latest and greatest item, character, whatever, they would come out with something new and he would start all over again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] fubo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) I have to wonder if this is a video game problem, or if it's a sort of financial self-destructiveness expressed through a video game rather than through some other means. Like, for every person who spends money they don't have on video games, how many people spend money they don't have on fancy cars, or clothing, or expensive pets, other luxury possessions? How many people spend the rent money on sneakers, or the kids' college fund on fancy vacations, or the utility bill money on anime figurines, or their whole paycheck on partying, or their retirement fund on too much house? Financial self-destructiveness seems to be a problem that some people have. It gets reported heavily when it's expressed through video games, in part because much of the reporter's audience thinks all video games are fundamentally pointless and evil to begin with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] erwan@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) The difference with in-game spending is that they use all the same shady techniques as casinos to exploit those people. You don't see sneakers shops offering time limited loot boxes for a chance to obtain limited edition sneakers, they also don't show you a big grid of their catalog with holes for the sneakers you don't own. "Just buy those 2 pairs to complete the collection of running sneakers!" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago You clearly have no idea what "sneakerheads" are, as these tactics and more DO exist and have for decades. Hell, little kids were getting murdered for their Air Jordans not 30 years ago, walking home from fucking school, son. permalink fedilink source parent [–] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Empathetic, to be fair. Sympathetic is to mirror their emotional state, etc. Empathy is to understand it without inhabiting that space/experiencing it yourself. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ale@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (3 children) Nah, if you're going to hide your bad choices behind clinical language, then you need therapy. If you're not getting therapy and you have 50k to spend, then that's a you problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 years ago Some people don't realize they have a problem. I feel bad for those people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) The problem isn't that they "have 50k to spend", it's literally the exact opposite AND that they don't know it's a problem that they spend out on stupid shit like this grift. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ale@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago If they spend 50k on a videogame, then they have 50k to spend by definition, whether or not it's actually their money. If it's not actually their money, then I have even less sympathy. I'll give another example. I have a lot of sympathy for opiate addicts. I have zero sympathy for opiate addicts who steal from their friends and family. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 33 points 2 years ago (10 children) You don't have sympathy for people with addictive personality disorders? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 36 points 2 years ago (5 children) On the one hand, my gut says "if they have 50k to blow and do so on a game, fuck em" On the other hand, my experience with addictive personalities knows they almost certainly don't have that money to blow, but they will do so anyway, fucking their life (and possibly their families lives) over even more in the process, and no amount of lecturing them will change, because they need therapy. My gut isn't as sympathetic as my brain is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Eylrid@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (3 children) There was a guy that posted on reddit about how he spent thousands of dollars on loot boxes. The way he totally wrecked his finances and his relationship with his wife was harrowing. Everytime he would get the latest and greatest item, character, whatever, they would come out with something new and he would start all over again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] fubo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) I have to wonder if this is a video game problem, or if it's a sort of financial self-destructiveness expressed through a video game rather than through some other means. Like, for every person who spends money they don't have on video games, how many people spend money they don't have on fancy cars, or clothing, or expensive pets, other luxury possessions? How many people spend the rent money on sneakers, or the kids' college fund on fancy vacations, or the utility bill money on anime figurines, or their whole paycheck on partying, or their retirement fund on too much house? Financial self-destructiveness seems to be a problem that some people have. It gets reported heavily when it's expressed through video games, in part because much of the reporter's audience thinks all video games are fundamentally pointless and evil to begin with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] erwan@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) The difference with in-game spending is that they use all the same shady techniques as casinos to exploit those people. You don't see sneakers shops offering time limited loot boxes for a chance to obtain limited edition sneakers, they also don't show you a big grid of their catalog with holes for the sneakers you don't own. "Just buy those 2 pairs to complete the collection of running sneakers!" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago You clearly have no idea what "sneakerheads" are, as these tactics and more DO exist and have for decades. Hell, little kids were getting murdered for their Air Jordans not 30 years ago, walking home from fucking school, son. permalink fedilink source parent [–] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Empathetic, to be fair. Sympathetic is to mirror their emotional state, etc. Empathy is to understand it without inhabiting that space/experiencing it yourself. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ale@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (3 children) Nah, if you're going to hide your bad choices behind clinical language, then you need therapy. If you're not getting therapy and you have 50k to spend, then that's a you problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 years ago Some people don't realize they have a problem. I feel bad for those people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) The problem isn't that they "have 50k to spend", it's literally the exact opposite AND that they don't know it's a problem that they spend out on stupid shit like this grift. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ale@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago If they spend 50k on a videogame, then they have 50k to spend by definition, whether or not it's actually their money. If it's not actually their money, then I have even less sympathy. I'll give another example. I have a lot of sympathy for opiate addicts. I have zero sympathy for opiate addicts who steal from their friends and family. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 36 points 2 years ago (5 children) On the one hand, my gut says "if they have 50k to blow and do so on a game, fuck em" On the other hand, my experience with addictive personalities knows they almost certainly don't have that money to blow, but they will do so anyway, fucking their life (and possibly their families lives) over even more in the process, and no amount of lecturing them will change, because they need therapy. My gut isn't as sympathetic as my brain is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Eylrid@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (3 children) There was a guy that posted on reddit about how he spent thousands of dollars on loot boxes. The way he totally wrecked his finances and his relationship with his wife was harrowing. Everytime he would get the latest and greatest item, character, whatever, they would come out with something new and he would start all over again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] fubo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) I have to wonder if this is a video game problem, or if it's a sort of financial self-destructiveness expressed through a video game rather than through some other means. Like, for every person who spends money they don't have on video games, how many people spend money they don't have on fancy cars, or clothing, or expensive pets, other luxury possessions? How many people spend the rent money on sneakers, or the kids' college fund on fancy vacations, or the utility bill money on anime figurines, or their whole paycheck on partying, or their retirement fund on too much house? Financial self-destructiveness seems to be a problem that some people have. It gets reported heavily when it's expressed through video games, in part because much of the reporter's audience thinks all video games are fundamentally pointless and evil to begin with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] erwan@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) The difference with in-game spending is that they use all the same shady techniques as casinos to exploit those people. You don't see sneakers shops offering time limited loot boxes for a chance to obtain limited edition sneakers, they also don't show you a big grid of their catalog with holes for the sneakers you don't own. "Just buy those 2 pairs to complete the collection of running sneakers!" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago You clearly have no idea what "sneakerheads" are, as these tactics and more DO exist and have for decades. Hell, little kids were getting murdered for their Air Jordans not 30 years ago, walking home from fucking school, son. permalink fedilink source parent [–] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Empathetic, to be fair. Sympathetic is to mirror their emotional state, etc. Empathy is to understand it without inhabiting that space/experiencing it yourself. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Eylrid@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (3 children) There was a guy that posted on reddit about how he spent thousands of dollars on loot boxes. The way he totally wrecked his finances and his relationship with his wife was harrowing. Everytime he would get the latest and greatest item, character, whatever, they would come out with something new and he would start all over again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] fubo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) I have to wonder if this is a video game problem, or if it's a sort of financial self-destructiveness expressed through a video game rather than through some other means. Like, for every person who spends money they don't have on video games, how many people spend money they don't have on fancy cars, or clothing, or expensive pets, other luxury possessions? How many people spend the rent money on sneakers, or the kids' college fund on fancy vacations, or the utility bill money on anime figurines, or their whole paycheck on partying, or their retirement fund on too much house? Financial self-destructiveness seems to be a problem that some people have. It gets reported heavily when it's expressed through video games, in part because much of the reporter's audience thinks all video games are fundamentally pointless and evil to begin with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] erwan@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) The difference with in-game spending is that they use all the same shady techniques as casinos to exploit those people. You don't see sneakers shops offering time limited loot boxes for a chance to obtain limited edition sneakers, they also don't show you a big grid of their catalog with holes for the sneakers you don't own. "Just buy those 2 pairs to complete the collection of running sneakers!" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago You clearly have no idea what "sneakerheads" are, as these tactics and more DO exist and have for decades. Hell, little kids were getting murdered for their Air Jordans not 30 years ago, walking home from fucking school, son. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fubo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) I have to wonder if this is a video game problem, or if it's a sort of financial self-destructiveness expressed through a video game rather than through some other means. Like, for every person who spends money they don't have on video games, how many people spend money they don't have on fancy cars, or clothing, or expensive pets, other luxury possessions? How many people spend the rent money on sneakers, or the kids' college fund on fancy vacations, or the utility bill money on anime figurines, or their whole paycheck on partying, or their retirement fund on too much house? Financial self-destructiveness seems to be a problem that some people have. It gets reported heavily when it's expressed through video games, in part because much of the reporter's audience thinks all video games are fundamentally pointless and evil to begin with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] erwan@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) The difference with in-game spending is that they use all the same shady techniques as casinos to exploit those people. You don't see sneakers shops offering time limited loot boxes for a chance to obtain limited edition sneakers, they also don't show you a big grid of their catalog with holes for the sneakers you don't own. "Just buy those 2 pairs to complete the collection of running sneakers!" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago You clearly have no idea what "sneakerheads" are, as these tactics and more DO exist and have for decades. Hell, little kids were getting murdered for their Air Jordans not 30 years ago, walking home from fucking school, son. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] erwan@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) The difference with in-game spending is that they use all the same shady techniques as casinos to exploit those people. You don't see sneakers shops offering time limited loot boxes for a chance to obtain limited edition sneakers, they also don't show you a big grid of their catalog with holes for the sneakers you don't own. "Just buy those 2 pairs to complete the collection of running sneakers!" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago You clearly have no idea what "sneakerheads" are, as these tactics and more DO exist and have for decades. Hell, little kids were getting murdered for their Air Jordans not 30 years ago, walking home from fucking school, son. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago You clearly have no idea what "sneakerheads" are, as these tactics and more DO exist and have for decades. Hell, little kids were getting murdered for their Air Jordans not 30 years ago, walking home from fucking school, son. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Empathetic, to be fair. Sympathetic is to mirror their emotional state, etc. Empathy is to understand it without inhabiting that space/experiencing it yourself. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ale@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (3 children) Nah, if you're going to hide your bad choices behind clinical language, then you need therapy. If you're not getting therapy and you have 50k to spend, then that's a you problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 years ago Some people don't realize they have a problem. I feel bad for those people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) The problem isn't that they "have 50k to spend", it's literally the exact opposite AND that they don't know it's a problem that they spend out on stupid shit like this grift. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ale@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago If they spend 50k on a videogame, then they have 50k to spend by definition, whether or not it's actually their money. If it's not actually their money, then I have even less sympathy. I'll give another example. I have a lot of sympathy for opiate addicts. I have zero sympathy for opiate addicts who steal from their friends and family. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 years ago Some people don't realize they have a problem. I feel bad for those people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) The problem isn't that they "have 50k to spend", it's literally the exact opposite AND that they don't know it's a problem that they spend out on stupid shit like this grift. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ale@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago If they spend 50k on a videogame, then they have 50k to spend by definition, whether or not it's actually their money. If it's not actually their money, then I have even less sympathy. I'll give another example. I have a lot of sympathy for opiate addicts. I have zero sympathy for opiate addicts who steal from their friends and family. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ale@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago If they spend 50k on a videogame, then they have 50k to spend by definition, whether or not it's actually their money. If it's not actually their money, then I have even less sympathy. I'll give another example. I have a lot of sympathy for opiate addicts. I have zero sympathy for opiate addicts who steal from their friends and family. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 7 points 2 years ago It's like the scammers who include spelling mistakes, to make sure they only attract the real dipshits. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] erwan@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago Probably a way to avoid costly charge backs for when regular users purchase that by mistake permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PersonalDevKit@aussie.zone 1 point 2 years ago It is the Ferrari model. You want a new Ferrari? Well you have to prove you have already owned several other Ferraris. Make people feel special while they hand over stupid money to you permalink fedilink source parent