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We've known for years that the owner is a lying, creepy, out of touch dipshit and that it's a very flawed car and the company will cut costs to save money on safety items, every time.

Electric vehicles with drive assist are awesome and are the future, but there are alternatives, especially if you have money, which a lot of Tesla customers do. And they're not particularly well built; how many of these do you think will be on the road 20 years from now? And now we've seen how Elaine runs their companies, why the hell would anybody put their trust in their products?

If you've bought a Tesla in the last five or so years, you're a damn goober in my eyes. That's my hot take, prepared for being called poor and other sodium, tear filled comments from fools whose opinions don't matter. You are the hardcore, foaming at the mouth Segway fan from the 2000s, have at me lol.

Update: The teary eyed, sweaty fingered responses to this are predictably hilarious. I've been called a guy that eats 4 pizzas a week in another old thread because of this, a cunt, a tool, a douche, a couple people spent their energy to tell me they don't understand me spending my energy posting this, some people are telling me something about Tesla or Elaine living in my head rent free. All genuinely pathetic responses, so GG lol. Cheers.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The same applies to EVs, you don't get nearly that 250-300 mile range without degrading your battery at a faster rate than your gas car's fuel pump.

Your fuel efficiency number is also bad. It probably factors in a lot of the large pickups that get 12-16 mpg. All the SUVs and sedans I've owned achieved 400-450 miles per tank. Hell, my 98 camry could do 500 if you kept AC usage to a minimum.

Your level of confidence is immeasurable, considering your bad statistics, and 1 sided thinking of the negatives.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My numbers came from WLTP which considers EV range "a functional range for which you can safely drive without harm to the systems." So it already took into account that issue.

Your anecdotal evidence does not a statistic make. The average fuel efficiency for all cars in the road in America is 25 mpg. This is not counting lorries or other commercial vehicles. The average tank size is 12-16 gallons. You. Are. Wrong.

But still love the assured confidence.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It seems you don't have any real world experience with EVs as WLTP is wildly optimistic. EPA is bad enough, but WLTP isn't even remotely close unless you're going a constant 35 mph with no stops.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Owned both a Model S and a Taycan. Both have exceeded WLTP in my experience. So you'd be wrong on that assumption.

Edit: and most reviewers agree that both cars exceed their tested ranges. Not seen one say otherwise

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh look, anecdotal evidence. I guess I'll disregard your post. You. Are. Wrong.

Btw, pickups are not lorries. Those are just called trucks. Those large vehicles severally skew averages in the US. Knowing where your statistics come from will really make you look a lot less stupid on the internet.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

My statistics come from WLTP. You might want to follow your own advice. Also: pickups and other trucks only account for 12% of cars on road in America. So again, wrong. Confidently wrong, but still wrong.

Also it's not anecdotal if I have a plurality of reviewers agreeing with me. The plural of anecdote is in fact data.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Really? From my vantage point, the majority of users here disagree with you. I guess that's data stating you're wrong.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Users here who have not sourced shit and mentioned objectively false information.

Moment you put forth false info, I ignore your opinion as invalid. So frankly, idgaf what the very clearly incorrect people in this thread think. Their opinion is based in falsehoods.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So frankly, idgaf what the very clearly incorrect people in this thread think. Their opinion is based in falsehoods.

Funny, that's what everyone here thinks of your opinion and stats twisting.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not twisting any stars at all. If you have an issue with my math: present it or gtfo

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
  • Fact 1: you made a point how gas vehicles cannot use their full tank due to additional wear on the engine, yet neglected to do the same when stating range for EVs that have even more degradation on their batteries when going above 80% and below 20%
  • Fact 2: your statement in fact 1 is inaccurate, it's mainly the fuel pump that suffers additional wear and tear from running low on fuel. The engine only suffers when the gas tank is completely empty.
  • Fact 3: most people here are disagreeing with you. Just because you think you know better, doesn't make your statements any more accurate.
  • Fact 4: you're not a nice person, so maybe you should be the one leaving instead.

Enough facts?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago
  1. I didn't state it for EV ranges because my stated ranges accounted for that fact. To say "they can only use 80% of their battery charge" would be misleading in the context of the listed ranges.
  2. This isn't false you're essentially saying "you're right but it's mostly not the engine" in other words: you're being a pedantic git
  3. They can disagree all they want, I'm actually correct and have the stats (which you have yet to refute) to back my statements up.
  4. I never claimed to be nice.