Fear Mongering About Range Anxiety Has To Stop — CT Governor Calls Out EV Opponents::Several state governors are fighting fear mongering as they attempt to reduce transportation emissions in their states.

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[–] -4 points 2 years ago (8 children)

It should be better but Tesla has been making it worse.

The Model Y has a structural battery pack. That is the battery is integral to the car, and filled with an almost impossible to remove foam. It is unrepairable and un replaceable. Musk has said when the battery dies, you scrap the entire car and they recycle the lithium from the scrap.

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  • [+] 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)
  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Given Tesla's market share, your claim that easily replaced batteries is "typical" isn't accurate. A large percentage isn't replaceable so it's something consumers should consider when choosing a brand.

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  • [+] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)
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    Tesla is one of dozens of brands. So no.

    Tesla is 50% of all EV's sold. So, yes.

    Yes but we weren’t discussing “choosing a brand”,

    That's the point! You presented "swap a new battery" as obvious to the the OP when it's not obvious. You have to first pick a brand that allows that. Model Y was first with structural battery but others like Volvo and BMW are coming soon.

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  • [+] 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)
  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (2 children)

    Right so then “EVs”= “Tesla”? That’s the argument you want to go with?

    I specifically DIDN'T say that! You said this:

    Like by the time you need a new one there will be several affordable third party options that will also increase your range.

    You didn't qualify that with "only if you buy a model that doesn't have a structural battery."

    Volvo and BMW are coming soon.

    [Citation needed]

    https://www.sae.org/news/2023/01/bmw-future-batteries---ulrich

    https://www.just-auto.com/news/volvo-plans-to-make-battery-pack-part-of-body-structure/?cf-view

    GM too:

    https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/understanding-structural-ev-batteries-2021-07-23/

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