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[–] David_Eight@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Last I checked an engine and transmission rebuild combined cost less than replacing just the batteries on an EV. An ICE might need a rebuild every 20+ years but, we don't even have 20 years of EV data to look at to compare.

No, I don't follow EVs super close. What brands allow this? What third party batteries can I buy and how much do they cost and how do they compare to OEM batteries?

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[+] helenslunch@feddit.nl -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

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[–] David_Eight@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago*

Depends on which ones you buy and when.

How much does it cost to replace an EV battery on average?

It's very easy to look at 10+ year old batteries and extrapolate.

There aren't a ton of 10+ year old EVs is my problem. 10 years ago EV were still a pretty niche thing. If you have that kind of info I'd love to take a look though.

That's what we call a "loaded question". There's all kinds of companies.

I definitely wouldn't call that a loaded question. How do you figure that it is?

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[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (8 children)

It should be better but Tesla has been making it worse.

The Model Y has a structural battery pack. That is the battery is integral to the car, and filled with an almost impossible to remove foam. It is unrepairable and un replaceable. Musk has said when the battery dies, you scrap the entire car and they recycle the lithium from the scrap.

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[+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

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[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Given Tesla's market share, your claim that easily replaced batteries is "typical" isn't accurate. A large percentage isn't replaceable so it's something consumers should consider when choosing a brand.

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[+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

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[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (4 children)

Tesla is one of dozens of brands. So no.

Tesla is 50% of all EV's sold. So, yes.

Yes but we weren’t discussing “choosing a brand”,

That's the point! You presented "swap a new battery" as obvious to the the OP when it's not obvious. You have to first pick a brand that allows that. Model Y was first with structural battery but others like Volvo and BMW are coming soon.