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Prelude 1: "Was it worth it Hamas? Now what? Whats your plan?" -Extreme_Attention_99

Prelude 2: "The plan is to blame Israel for the destruction of civilian infrastructure and have a bunch of idiot leftist college kids to echo it on their behalf when not demanding student loan forgiveness." - TheRealAuthorSarge

The Absolute Banger: "As a leftist who supports military action in Gaza (and who paid off my student loans early), I agree. Not so often these days we have issues that don't split neatly down party lines, but this is one of them. My entire circle is fairly progressive, and there is a ton of support for Israel." -citori421

I had to dig a little further into the profile of citori421. Here's his "progressive circle" btw:

I have so many friends who maybe make 100k per year between them and their partner, buying $500,000 houses. https://www.reddit.com/r/ImTheMainCharacter/comments/18tbjl9/im_awesome_because_i_quit_my_job_and_became_a/kfha7m9/

He also, surprise surprise, hates women:

Like 90% of women flexing their business prowess on tiktok, there's a solid chance some dude with a boring real job is financing this https://www.reddit.com/r/ImTheMainCharacter/comments/18tbjl9/im_awesome_because_i_quit_my_job_and_became_a/kfgmh9e/

Apparently he lives in... Juneau, Alaska? Which means he gets a yearly $1,600 dividend from the Alaska Permanent Fund. Checkmate, capitalist!

It's a graveyard of non-professionals who dreamed big and failed hard. Don't move to Juneau unless you have plans to hit six figures like tomorrow. But it is one of the most "big city" little towns in the world. https://www.reddit.com/r/alaska/comments/18se4ud/best_city_in_alaska/kf8qkzy/

Oh, and he also admits he's a "fed" in the subreddit r/fednews. No, I am not joking:

I'm in a position as a fed where I get reference checks for past interns with a whole form I'm supposed to fill out like I'm performing a fuckin background investigation for them. For basic entry level jobs that will just be OJT. https://www.reddit.com/r/fednews/comments/18rahwc/always_make_sure_you_have_rock_solid_references/kf1xr22/?context=3

And the COUP DE GRACE, an amazing anti-Trump post that both proves how "progressive" this guy is while also being incredibly classist AND using an anti-neurodivergent slur:

Trump belongs in jail, because he's a criminal. There's a mountain of evidence and literal court decisions and the only thing saving him at the moment is politics. He'll eventually die in prison, and you'll switch to beating yourself off to the next right wing wannabe dictator that makes you feel safe by lying about the world and pretending to be able to do things for sure white trash to pull themselves out of the hole they dug themselves into. Also, lmaooooooo at your "source". This comment should be in a textbook chapter 200 years from now about the extent of r-t-rdation trump worshippers engaged in. [my censorship] https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmTheMainCharacter/comments/18qnx8d/no_words/key7kag/?context=3

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I and all my leftist friends support nobody. This is a turf war between bloods and crips - both groups represent ideas antithetical to a leftist worldview, and I have no idea how people support either.

Like do you back the nationalist government that refuses universal human rights or the folks who are basically a caliphate army with no country?

Hopefully this bloodletting can stop someday - but it's not going to - so why bother taking a side for moral reasons?

The only approach we can take as outsiders is back the regional coalitions we already back and avoid escalating.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The only approach we can take as outsiders

Outsiders? OUTSIDERS? The Prime Minister of Israel is literally from Philadelphia. They are the 51st state. Israel is an American military base with some decorations on top. It's like saying America should not interfere with South Korea vs. North Korea. A bit late for that!

back the regional coalitions we already back and avoid escalating

That is literally what protesters are asking for. We are asking for Biden to pressure Israel into not escalating. But then liberals get mad that roads are blocked off etc. because that's not "the right way" to push for de-escalation. What is the right way? Any way that doesn't actually work. Any way where activism is limited only to superficial cultural consumption. Those are the boundaries of liberal politics.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Outsiders? OUTSIDERS? The Prime Minister of Israel is literally from Philadelphia. They are the 51st state. Israel is an American military base with some decorations on top. It's like saying America should not interfere with South Korea vs. North Korea. A bit late for that!

Yeah, and even if you want to make a much softer claim, most of the demands by Americans are not that "Israel must stop doing this or that" (though they openly want this, and for good reason), but rather that "The US must stop funding Israel so long as Israel continues to do this or that," which is exactly the sort of thing that literally the most philistine Politics Understander should be able to concede is reasonable for Americans to demand of the American government.

Your harder claim is also completely correct, but I think it's worth pointing out since some people would make an undue fuss about it.