▲ 862 ▼ Empress forgot to take her meds again (lemmy.world) submitted 3 years ago by IverCoder@lemmy.world to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 293 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Freesoftwareenjoyer@lemmy.world 10 points 3 years ago (1 child) That's a shame. I wonder what it would take to change that. I would really like to see Denuvo become useless some day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] esty@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 years ago* (2 children) Probably one of the big things keeping them from open sourcing their knowledge is denuvo though, they download games with their (cracked) DRM to RE and prevent future cracking and also, empress cracks cost $$$ C: permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Freesoftwareenjoyer@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) More people working on breaking Denuvo would mean more cracked games and more vulnerabilities being found. Even if Denuvo team could keep up with that, it would be extra cost for them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] esty@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Which clearly is money they have considering how much publishers pour onto that fire, tbh permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Freesoftwareenjoyer@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Probably, but they raised the cost for us, so we should do the same to them. Maybe we would eventually reach a point when companies using that product decide that it's not longer worth it to pay X amount of money for a game to be "protected" for only Y amount of days. I think that should be the goal. To raise the costs, to make DRM as impractical for them as possible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] esty@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 years ago Based permalink fedilink source parent [–] ghostinthessh@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) I think that the cracking groups could have released better explanations on how their tooling worked so that others could at least be closer to "up to date" with the current DRM technology. Right now public cracking info is years behind because the groups that did have any knowledge took it with them. The idea that this would help only denuvo was a bit myopic since either way when they left cracking it would help denuvo. However I heard that many cracking groups now work for denuvo so that may be part of it. But considering they did all that work for free, I don't want to conspire about them or claim that I am entitled to their work. Edit: Also the people who have released "how to break denuvo" guides have been some of the more aggressively persued legally. So my lamenting over no documentation/explanation may be a bit "man i wish someone would break the law for MY benefit." permalink fedilink source parent
[–] esty@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 years ago* (2 children) Probably one of the big things keeping them from open sourcing their knowledge is denuvo though, they download games with their (cracked) DRM to RE and prevent future cracking and also, empress cracks cost $$$ C: permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Freesoftwareenjoyer@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) More people working on breaking Denuvo would mean more cracked games and more vulnerabilities being found. Even if Denuvo team could keep up with that, it would be extra cost for them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] esty@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Which clearly is money they have considering how much publishers pour onto that fire, tbh permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Freesoftwareenjoyer@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Probably, but they raised the cost for us, so we should do the same to them. Maybe we would eventually reach a point when companies using that product decide that it's not longer worth it to pay X amount of money for a game to be "protected" for only Y amount of days. I think that should be the goal. To raise the costs, to make DRM as impractical for them as possible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] esty@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 years ago Based permalink fedilink source parent [–] ghostinthessh@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) I think that the cracking groups could have released better explanations on how their tooling worked so that others could at least be closer to "up to date" with the current DRM technology. Right now public cracking info is years behind because the groups that did have any knowledge took it with them. The idea that this would help only denuvo was a bit myopic since either way when they left cracking it would help denuvo. However I heard that many cracking groups now work for denuvo so that may be part of it. But considering they did all that work for free, I don't want to conspire about them or claim that I am entitled to their work. Edit: Also the people who have released "how to break denuvo" guides have been some of the more aggressively persued legally. So my lamenting over no documentation/explanation may be a bit "man i wish someone would break the law for MY benefit." permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Freesoftwareenjoyer@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) More people working on breaking Denuvo would mean more cracked games and more vulnerabilities being found. Even if Denuvo team could keep up with that, it would be extra cost for them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] esty@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Which clearly is money they have considering how much publishers pour onto that fire, tbh permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Freesoftwareenjoyer@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Probably, but they raised the cost for us, so we should do the same to them. Maybe we would eventually reach a point when companies using that product decide that it's not longer worth it to pay X amount of money for a game to be "protected" for only Y amount of days. I think that should be the goal. To raise the costs, to make DRM as impractical for them as possible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] esty@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 years ago Based permalink fedilink source parent
[–] esty@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Which clearly is money they have considering how much publishers pour onto that fire, tbh permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Freesoftwareenjoyer@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Probably, but they raised the cost for us, so we should do the same to them. Maybe we would eventually reach a point when companies using that product decide that it's not longer worth it to pay X amount of money for a game to be "protected" for only Y amount of days. I think that should be the goal. To raise the costs, to make DRM as impractical for them as possible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] esty@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 years ago Based permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Freesoftwareenjoyer@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Probably, but they raised the cost for us, so we should do the same to them. Maybe we would eventually reach a point when companies using that product decide that it's not longer worth it to pay X amount of money for a game to be "protected" for only Y amount of days. I think that should be the goal. To raise the costs, to make DRM as impractical for them as possible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] esty@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 years ago Based permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ghostinthessh@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) I think that the cracking groups could have released better explanations on how their tooling worked so that others could at least be closer to "up to date" with the current DRM technology. Right now public cracking info is years behind because the groups that did have any knowledge took it with them. The idea that this would help only denuvo was a bit myopic since either way when they left cracking it would help denuvo. However I heard that many cracking groups now work for denuvo so that may be part of it. But considering they did all that work for free, I don't want to conspire about them or claim that I am entitled to their work. Edit: Also the people who have released "how to break denuvo" guides have been some of the more aggressively persued legally. So my lamenting over no documentation/explanation may be a bit "man i wish someone would break the law for MY benefit." permalink fedilink source parent
