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"If you tell a lie big enough and tell it frequently enough, people will eventually come to believe it". What is an example of this happening today? (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
submitted 2 years ago by to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml
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I would really rather that these were actual examples, and not conspiracy theories. We all have our own unsubstantiated ideas about what shadowy no-gooders are doing, but I'd rather hear about things that are actually happening.

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[–] 42 points 2 years ago (24 children)

"Owning a car gives you freedom" is a big one considering how expensive they are and that most people just use them to sit in traffic jams on their commute 90%+ of the time they are using them.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    It is context dependent.

    Owning a car does give you freedom in rural settings where mass transit never existed before it was bought out and run into the ground by automotive companies. They were even fairly cheap for decades if you bought them used!

    But yes, if you live and work somewhere with traffic jams then owning one instead of using and pushing for more mass transit is the opposite of freedom.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago*

    I'm not even in a rural setting and the only way to get my dogs to the vet is via car. Getting a taxi to drive there is difficult when one of your dogs starts vomiting after the second turn.

    That and getting to by family in a rural setting. 2 hours by car vs up to 8 by train. With two dogs. That won't happen 😐

    Besides that I don't really need a car.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (19 children)

    As part of a couple that just got knocked down to one vehicle instead of two, due to a wreck, I wholly disagree with your statement. Take a kid to friends house? Lol. Nope. Pick up a loaf of bread or grocery store? Negative. Park for a walk? Sorry. Get to work? Better start walking down the highway.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Your whole environment is designed that way because cars need so much space. If you lived in a walkable European city all of that wouldn't be a problem.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Mind giving an example of such a city? Not like I'd be able to move now, but one never knows.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Well living in the US is my reality, and there's two cities in my state that have walkable areas, and if you want to live in the somewhat safer portions that are walkable in either of those cities it's going to cost you literally twice as much to live there as anywhere else in the state.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    Park for a walk

    Can't you...just walk?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Not if the American automotive industry has anything to say about it. The whole country has been built around making walking impossible or too dangerous to attempt, just to maximise car sales at the expense of citizens' freedoms.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (4 children)

    I don't doubt it, I just don't understand it.

    You don't have to walk on the roads. Is there no grass or dirt nearby to walk on?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (3 children)

    Why have grass or dirt when you can have roads..? Grass and dirt sell no cars.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    But what is next to the road

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Judging by the pictures I've seen of the US, and google maps street view, more road, or parking lots. Sometimes, but not often, short stretches of sidewalk, often not wide enough to walk on safely, regularly interrupted by lampposts and whatnot.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Do you have any examples? I'm picturing suburbia with houses next to houses and fences blocking everything except driveways that lead to roads that go nowhere except driveways for miles until hitting the highway.

    But that just seems like a lazy video game set piece. I can't imagine it in reality

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    That's all anecdotal. Everything in your list I can do without a car. Especially take a walk. I literally just walk out the front door.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Wow. I didn't realize the entire US population actually lived at your house that is in a safe to walk area near schools and shopping centers and grocery stores and where you work, all within a few miles.

    Idiot

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago

    Exactly. Just because you live in a tiny town with less than 200 people doesn't mean the rest of the country does. In fact, the majority of Americans live in an area that could seriously benefit from better public transit and cycling and in turn less cars.

    Idiot

    Ah, so you already know you're wrong.

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