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[–] 72 points 2 years ago (23 children)

Just from his huge switch pre-stroke from "progressives are the future, vote for me I'm a progressive" to openly complaining people think he's a progressive and multiple hard right views...

I really think he's one of the people that get big personality changes after a stroke.

My mom went the other way and became a much happier person and more sympathetic to issues facing others, unfortunately the change can happen either way.

It's either that, or he pulled a Sinema and just lied about being a progressive to get elected

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago (15 children)

    multiple hard right views

    I haven't seen any hard-right views from Fetterman.

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago* (13 children)

    His immigration stance is bipartisan. Bernie himself wants to limit immigration. I'm a radical immigration proponent (wanna be a citizen and land in USA soil, I'd make you a citizen), but the reality is my opinion is deeply unpopular.

    Sadly, protectionism is rampant in the Democratic party.

    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/2/25/21143931/bernie-sanders-immigration-record-explained

    Israel is similarly bipartisan and not hard-right at all. 61% of Democrat voters support Biden's Israel stance, even if they think Israel is being too aggressive

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/11/17/democrats-israel-polls/

    I absolutely guarantee you his constituents are higher than national average in favor of the policies he is stating.

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  • [+] -15 points 2 years ago (12 children)

    Your argument for why someone with a D by their name can't have a far right stance is other people with a D by their name have the same stance?

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  • [–] 33 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (11 children)

    I'm saying that his stance is not "far right," and is instead embraced across the political spectrum

    Words cease to have any meaning if "far right" just means "things I don't personally agree with."

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  • [+] -6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Um, akshually, have you even considered that maybe Bernie is also far-right??

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  • [+] -20 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    Bernie is a Zionist, so yes he is far right.

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  • [+] -7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I’m saying that his stance is not “far right,” and is instead embraced across the political spectrum

    And I'm saying that decades of the "left party" moving to the right doesn't make conservative viewpoints suddenly the average and acceptable behavior for any Democrat.

    You're literally arguing that we hold the party standard to the person furtherest to the right, but they're not really on the right because a D is next to their name.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    And I’m saying that decades of the “left party” moving to the right

    This is not a thing that has happened.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Look up HWs pressure on Israel and the resulting ceasefire, then look at Bidens statements on Israel and decide for yourself which is further right.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    I'm wondering if he's posturing for a future presidential run, and the party has told him that he needs to temper his progressive stances if he ever wants to run as a Democrat.

    If so, definitely a bummer as he seemed like the exact type to not do that.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    I'm also curious how biased the information they are given during briefings is. I can totally see how the information the people have and the information presented (or not presented) in briefings could influence congresspeoples opinions.

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  • [+] -7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    The person we see now is who he always was.

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