▲ 1139 ▼ 41% of fediverse instances have blocked threads so far!!! (tech.lgbt) submitted 2 years ago by vantablack@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/technology@lemmy.world 578 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago Fully agree. I feel like helping facebook keep their users stuck on their platform or worse Twitter feels counterproductive in making the world more free. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) If you think Meta will allow the Threads algorithm to show anything from the fediverse you are unbelievably naive. And that's if content from the fediverse even makes a blip on a platform with 100x the size. Meta doesn't federate with the goal of giving Threads users an out. They federate because it's the most efficient way to scrape fediverse instances and build profiles on fediverse users. Meta has reached saturation with their existing services so they are now branching into any possible extra source of data they can. They'll take anything, from fediverse federation to Whatsapp emails. All your data is welcome to them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] donio@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* They federate because it’s the most efficient way to scrape fediverse instances and build profiles on fediverse users. That's not true. Quiet scraping is much easier to implement than integrating AP into your platform. permalink fedilink source parent [+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Honestly I could see this being a way of trapping people by giving them less incentive to leave. If people like us leave and you have to leave the corporate hellscapes to see our posts that gives people a reason to leave too but if they can enjoy it from the "comfort" of Mark Zuckerberg's domain they have no reason to leave. That also makes them captive to met us since they can pull the plug in Federation anytime they like or mess with it in a thousand different ways. Convincing people to sign up for another account may be non-trivial but it's ultimately the best way forward permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) In an ideal world people realize they can escape the ads and data collection without losing touch Meta will not allow this to happen, and if/when it does, they will take action. This shit is a zero sum game to these people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] chitak166@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) No, I don't think the conversation should be about the impact of federating with an instance. If we want to see it, great. If we don't, also great. But we should have the power to decide for ourselves instead of some biased admins. The only people who disagree with this are those who want to control what other people get to see. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chitak166@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) So admins shouldn’t defederate from any instances at all? Even right wing Nazi instances with Nazi flags in every profile? Users should have the power to defederate in addition to admins. This is something the people who join those instances want. Not everyone wants the same thing or has the same idea of what constitutes 'harmful' instances. They also want to “deplatform” those types from society as a whole. Yes, this is why it's important to take individual control away from the user; to push an agenda. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chitak166@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) They do. How can I defederate from an instance? Last time this discussion was brought up, I didn't think it was possible and everyone else agreed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago Fully agree. I feel like helping facebook keep their users stuck on their platform or worse Twitter feels counterproductive in making the world more free. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) If you think Meta will allow the Threads algorithm to show anything from the fediverse you are unbelievably naive. And that's if content from the fediverse even makes a blip on a platform with 100x the size. Meta doesn't federate with the goal of giving Threads users an out. They federate because it's the most efficient way to scrape fediverse instances and build profiles on fediverse users. Meta has reached saturation with their existing services so they are now branching into any possible extra source of data they can. They'll take anything, from fediverse federation to Whatsapp emails. All your data is welcome to them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] donio@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* They federate because it’s the most efficient way to scrape fediverse instances and build profiles on fediverse users. That's not true. Quiet scraping is much easier to implement than integrating AP into your platform. permalink fedilink source parent [+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] donio@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* They federate because it’s the most efficient way to scrape fediverse instances and build profiles on fediverse users. That's not true. Quiet scraping is much easier to implement than integrating AP into your platform. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Honestly I could see this being a way of trapping people by giving them less incentive to leave. If people like us leave and you have to leave the corporate hellscapes to see our posts that gives people a reason to leave too but if they can enjoy it from the "comfort" of Mark Zuckerberg's domain they have no reason to leave. That also makes them captive to met us since they can pull the plug in Federation anytime they like or mess with it in a thousand different ways. Convincing people to sign up for another account may be non-trivial but it's ultimately the best way forward permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) In an ideal world people realize they can escape the ads and data collection without losing touch Meta will not allow this to happen, and if/when it does, they will take action. This shit is a zero sum game to these people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chitak166@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) No, I don't think the conversation should be about the impact of federating with an instance. If we want to see it, great. If we don't, also great. But we should have the power to decide for ourselves instead of some biased admins. The only people who disagree with this are those who want to control what other people get to see. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chitak166@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) So admins shouldn’t defederate from any instances at all? Even right wing Nazi instances with Nazi flags in every profile? Users should have the power to defederate in addition to admins. This is something the people who join those instances want. Not everyone wants the same thing or has the same idea of what constitutes 'harmful' instances. They also want to “deplatform” those types from society as a whole. Yes, this is why it's important to take individual control away from the user; to push an agenda. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chitak166@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) They do. How can I defederate from an instance? Last time this discussion was brought up, I didn't think it was possible and everyone else agreed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chitak166@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) So admins shouldn’t defederate from any instances at all? Even right wing Nazi instances with Nazi flags in every profile? Users should have the power to defederate in addition to admins. This is something the people who join those instances want. Not everyone wants the same thing or has the same idea of what constitutes 'harmful' instances. They also want to “deplatform” those types from society as a whole. Yes, this is why it's important to take individual control away from the user; to push an agenda. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chitak166@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) They do. How can I defederate from an instance? Last time this discussion was brought up, I didn't think it was possible and everyone else agreed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chitak166@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) So admins shouldn’t defederate from any instances at all? Even right wing Nazi instances with Nazi flags in every profile? Users should have the power to defederate in addition to admins. This is something the people who join those instances want. Not everyone wants the same thing or has the same idea of what constitutes 'harmful' instances. They also want to “deplatform” those types from society as a whole. Yes, this is why it's important to take individual control away from the user; to push an agenda. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chitak166@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) They do. How can I defederate from an instance? Last time this discussion was brought up, I didn't think it was possible and everyone else agreed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chitak166@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) They do. How can I defederate from an instance? Last time this discussion was brought up, I didn't think it was possible and everyone else agreed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) They do. How can I defederate from an instance? Last time this discussion was brought up, I didn't think it was possible and everyone else agreed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent