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Pluralistic: “If buying isn’t owning, piracy isn’t stealing” (pluralistic.net)
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[–] 3 points 2 years ago (8 children)

No, they're just stealing the fuel and wages the employees should be getting for maintaining the train.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    The employees don't get paid less if some jumps the turnstile, the fuel cost to carry a single person is completely trivial, and I didn't say nobody should care about turnstile jumpers. I said its not stealing. If you damage the tracks and cause the train to derail you're a monster, and there are financial costs, but you still didn't steal the train. Your argument doesn't make any sense.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    So are you arguing that turnstile jumpers are harming the company, but they are not stealing the service / train / ride? Like the literal word "steal".

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yes. That is in fact what I am arguing. I would also argue that the harm is tiny and can sometimes be justifiable, depending on the circumstances, but yes. It absolutely does do some non-zero harm, and yes there is no thing being stolen. That is the argument I am making.

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