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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Or in a five-seater car or crossover. It's ridiculous. Carseats and boosters are massive, even the ones with the smallest bases. Then after that you need space for sports equipment, musical instruments, other friends, etc. I'm not sure what the solution is here, other than acknowledging that for a few years in a family's life they're going to need a bigger vehicle, and it would be great if manufacturers offered a hybrid or EV solution for them, too.

Mazda is finally coming out with a PHEV three row next year, starting around $55k. Not sure who else, besides Rivian with their new fully EV three row at $75k+, which is completely unaffordable for most families.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Kia EV9 has three rows and starts at $55k still expensive but definitely in range for a middle class family

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Oh, nice! I didn't have that one on my radar. Our next family car needs to be either hybrid or EV, and I've just started looking.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

There were two hybrid minivans on the market a couple years ago when I went shopping for one. One plug-in from Chrysler and a non-plug-in from Toyota. Both cost about as much as a Model 3.