▲ 1746 ▼ Reactionaries and inconsistency are a match made in heaven (lemmy.world) submitted 2 years ago by STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world to c/aboringdystopia@lemmy.world 121 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 51 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ShortFuse@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) I looked up the numbers a while back but this 2017 study says at least 50%, meaning the majority pay taxes. https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-state-local-tax-contributions-2017/ Also, note that only 59.9% of households pay taxes, which means legal status isn't that important in terms of whether people pay taxes or not. They also won't likely get any social security money either. permalink fedilink source parent [–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (1 child) They pay more huh? That's some magical shit right there lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DarthBueller@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* They pay more if you consider that they frequently pay SS with no payout for them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sanyanov@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) How does it work btw? Do you come to your country's tax authority and say "hello, I'm here illegally, can I pay taxes" ? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ShortFuse@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (1 child) You file your taxes under a special SSN that begins with a 9 that is given to you by the IRS specifically for filing. https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/taxpayer-identification-numbers-tin#itin permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sanyanov@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) And you're not immediately arrested for, like, illegally working or potentially illegally crossing the border to begin with? Or is it like taxing criminal activity, simply a loophole to make charging them easier? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) a) different departments, tax department doesn't deal with immigration law b) government likes money more than it likes fairness, as should be obvious looking at... yknow... [gestures generally] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sanyanov@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I see, thanks! permalink fedilink source parent [+] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ShortFuse@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) I looked up the numbers a while back but this 2017 study says at least 50%, meaning the majority pay taxes. https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-state-local-tax-contributions-2017/ Also, note that only 59.9% of households pay taxes, which means legal status isn't that important in terms of whether people pay taxes or not. They also won't likely get any social security money either. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (1 child) They pay more huh? That's some magical shit right there lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DarthBueller@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* They pay more if you consider that they frequently pay SS with no payout for them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DarthBueller@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* They pay more if you consider that they frequently pay SS with no payout for them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sanyanov@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) How does it work btw? Do you come to your country's tax authority and say "hello, I'm here illegally, can I pay taxes" ? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ShortFuse@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (1 child) You file your taxes under a special SSN that begins with a 9 that is given to you by the IRS specifically for filing. https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/taxpayer-identification-numbers-tin#itin permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sanyanov@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) And you're not immediately arrested for, like, illegally working or potentially illegally crossing the border to begin with? Or is it like taxing criminal activity, simply a loophole to make charging them easier? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) a) different departments, tax department doesn't deal with immigration law b) government likes money more than it likes fairness, as should be obvious looking at... yknow... [gestures generally] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sanyanov@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I see, thanks! permalink fedilink source parent [+] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ShortFuse@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (1 child) You file your taxes under a special SSN that begins with a 9 that is given to you by the IRS specifically for filing. https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/taxpayer-identification-numbers-tin#itin permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sanyanov@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) And you're not immediately arrested for, like, illegally working or potentially illegally crossing the border to begin with? Or is it like taxing criminal activity, simply a loophole to make charging them easier? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) a) different departments, tax department doesn't deal with immigration law b) government likes money more than it likes fairness, as should be obvious looking at... yknow... [gestures generally] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sanyanov@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I see, thanks! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sanyanov@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) And you're not immediately arrested for, like, illegally working or potentially illegally crossing the border to begin with? Or is it like taxing criminal activity, simply a loophole to make charging them easier? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) a) different departments, tax department doesn't deal with immigration law b) government likes money more than it likes fairness, as should be obvious looking at... yknow... [gestures generally] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sanyanov@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I see, thanks! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) a) different departments, tax department doesn't deal with immigration law b) government likes money more than it likes fairness, as should be obvious looking at... yknow... [gestures generally] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sanyanov@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I see, thanks! permalink fedilink source parent
[+] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
