AI have no rights. Your AI creations are right-less. They belong in the public domain. If not, they are properties of the peoples whose art you stole to make the AI.
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something about... trusting marginalized peoples experiences? I am neurodivergent. It has been a significant barrier for me especially in areas of self expression and most notably visual art. You are telling me my life experience is dog shit and I should just ask NT people.
You have no concept of my situation and refuse to take me at my word. I hate brining up my neurodiversity because it is so poorly understood. You are proving to me that while this site is great for being inclusive for trans people there are significant black holes where ND people are concerned. I don't like to view myself as a marginalized person because I am a white cis male who speaks English but you are really making me feel marginalized. Thanks for that.
https://juliekitzes.com/painting-with-a-blind-minds-eye
https://theconversation.com/the-art-of-aphantasia-how-mind-blind-artists-create-without-being-able-to-visualise-162566
I do trust their testimony, and when the testimony conflicts, matters like what more of them say and what actually makes sense become a factor again. I've read several testimonies from artists on this subject and I welcome you to produce a more concrete contradiction, but not being able to visualize does not actually mean that it's impossible to draw more than a stick figure.
You might like this one
A black man was president so racism is obviously over right?
That is a nonsense comparison on several levels and I think you know that. Either something is possible or it isn't, and if it is possible in some cases but not in others, there needs to be one or more variables that cause that to be the case. Your analysis, as presented, was clearly incomplete because countless people with aphantasia provide contrary testimony.
That's why I suggested that you might be misunderstanding what it's like for people who are -- as far as this topic is concerned -- NT. Art is hard and it requires an immense amount of knowledge and practice, and many (for this purpose) NT people live their lives bitterly thinking "I wish that I could put on the page what I see in my head, but I lack the talent to do so". Generally speaking, they are wrong, they just haven't put in the work like the artists have -- including the much greater work disabled artists have -- but it goes some way to demonstrate that even for the able it is a long and difficult and discouraging process to make things that you can imagine other people finding presentable, though you may never even if you are quite good. You spoke a few comments ago as though mental images are themselves a superpower that elide the need to actually learn how to draw when it's genuinely nothing more than an ability to generate mental rough sketches at will that are significantly less stable and consistent (and therefore less useful) than an actual sketch.
Your stick figure claim is false, that is all.
fwiw I agree with you but just not on the idea that aphantasia itself necessitates being bad at drawing
I think it could hurt with drawing (for some people), for others it might actually help them gain the motivation to draw (if you can picture any scenario in your head you can easily end up having much less motivation to put that on a page, trust me).
There are probably other mental traits that are way more important to drawing than aphantasia though
the dysgraphia i don't know much about, but drawing figures is definitely a totally different hand movement from writing your name. I have great handwriting but I suck at drawing. Though dysgraphia probably does affect drawing too, and there are definitely multiple types of it which whose essences can't really be captured or described properly
you also could have a ton of other traits that simply aren't categorized properly under these limited names, so I believe you
Thanks for saying that.
Dysgraphia is the basically the bane of my existence. In my case it is caused by a lack of muscle memory in my hands. So any hand movement has to be specifically coordinated from scratch. So when I write a letter "A" my brain has to say to my hand "up and down and cross." Where most people write entire sentences like they are walking down the road for me its like walking across a field of sharp stones barefoot. Every single step must be carefully planned.