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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

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AI have no rights. Your AI creations are right-less. They belong in the public domain. If not, they are properties of the peoples whose art you stole to make the AI.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If you can honestly go out into the world and market yourself as an artist, do the work of an artist, as in design, manufacture, sell art, while using images produced with stable diffusion that you had no hand in developing, and you're transparent about it to your clients, go for it. More power to you. You're making art from stolen art in a society where the only way for artists to make money is selling their original designs. Artists work their butts off for not a lot of money, but I'm no moral warrior, people steal all the time, make money from stolen shit, etc. Make the money you can while you can. But that doesn't mean people aren't allowed to judge you. If you're making stuff for your own consumption, even better since it doesn't complicate things. Go ahead and call yourself an artist too, I don't care. But if you do all that and people get mad about it it doesn't make them "Classist Ableists" that was a cheap bullshit thing to say. If you're really gonna be an artist you're gonna have to take some harsh critique, especially if you're using a medium that everybody hates.

You're probably right, I shouldn't have gone off like that, why do I care about someone else's opinions? You're right, there's enough gray area, and the history of art is the history of people who were told that what they were making wasn't art calling themselves artists. It just seemed really out of line to insist its okay and accuse others of chauvinism for disagreeing. Maybe OP was just making stuff for their own consumption and enjoyment and we lost the plot. But instead of explaining that they defended the worst parts of ai art as virtuous.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

There is no value in suffering or "hard work." All production under capitalism is tainted by exploitation and theft.

All your issues are problems with capitalism not with AI.

My "Ableist Classist Luddite" was directed at a user who was providing no arguments and being a :smuglordsmuglord So I decided they were acting in bad faith and responded in turn.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I wish I could just have not responded to any of this. Kissinger died and it made me want to social media. Big waste of time and energy, as usual

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

dont worry i tagged alaskaball to clean this mess up, annoying ass debate perverts have no place here