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This is a direct consequence of the post-mao reform period.
These liberal ideas are widespread throughout China, not part of some vocal minority. Liberal economics are taught in schools. The ruling class, as you mentioned, is taught in the western tradition. Regardless of the direction of the country or the intention of the CPC, people's day to day experience with the means of production is capitalistic, and they want to be successful in this domain. The media in China has largely taken a pro-US stance since the 90s and until very recently, most people thought it was a utopia (the majority still do), so people want to emulate that model.
This is not something a purge can fix. It's a response to the development of the means of production.
What is this even based on? Taking the Politburo as a sample of the ruling class, only 2 of 24 people have had university education in the West. A total of 3 if you count university in HK as "western", and only 4 if you count the one other guy who got a degree in Russia.
If you're basing "the Western tradition" on the idea that universities in China are teaching along those lines then we're gonna need one big-ass "citations needed".
It's about universities in China. There isn't much Marxism in an econ degree, overwhelmingly what you are taught is liberalism. (Marxism is usually treated like its own field)
Most of Marxism is taught as history and sociology.
In fairness, a lot of Marxism is history and sociology. There are lots of very prestigious Chinese universities where you can get a degree in economics with a specialization in Marxist economics.
Chinese universities have been overrun by Western (neoclassical) economics for the past couple decades.
In China, neoclassical economics are known as Western economics (西方经济学), and Marxian economics are known as political economy (政治经济学).
Political economists aka Marxian economists have long been banished to humanities and social science departments.
Most prominent Chinese economists who are close to the center of power today, like Justin Lin Yifu (Chicago school), Zhang Weiying (Austrian school, PhD Oxford), Yi Gang (just sacked as head of PBoC) etc. are all Western educated or specializes in Western neoclassical economics even when they did their PhD in China (Li Yining, for example, who was the PhD advisor of Li Keqiang. Both of them just died this year.).
The legendary Marxian economists of the previous era like Xue Muqiao and Sun Yefang no longer exist as important players in today’s China economics department in the academia, nor are they giving advise to the Central Committee.
Out of interest, are these two worth reading? And do you have other recommendations?
That seems very grim. Is there any chance of this reversing ?