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[–] 106 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Students if school started at a later time: "That means later bed-time :D"

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  • [–] 70 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Something everyone here seems to be forgetting is that even if you are getting the same amount of sleep, sleeping at a time which fits your biological clock better is better for you. I can get some amount of sleep and wake up at 5am and be tired the whole day, and yet if I wake up at 8-9am with the same amount of sleep I am perfectly functional the whole day.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I noticed exactly this since starting WFH. Even if I suffer a bout of insomnia -- where I get maybe 3 hours of sleep -- just being able to sleep in to 0800 makes it so much more tolerable.

    It goes from feeling tormented to just feeling rough around the edges.

    God but I remember fighting to keep my eyes open at school and at work back then.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    i still have to fight back sleeping anytime i am in a meeting. i actually started hallucinating once. doesnt even matter how much sleep i actually got or if its at the right time, i just automatically get tired sitting down listening to people talk

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago*

    I mean this kindly: have you had a sleep study recently? That doesn't sound typical and you may have a sleep disorder like sleep apnea. Diagnosis and treatment could give you more energy during the day. Take care!

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    Circadian rhythms are rooted in our very cells and dominate our lives. Defying them always comes at a penalty. Adding to the complexity here is that everyone is different; social norms be damned.

    Jetlag is probably the best studied phenomenon for trying to "break the rules", and surprise, there is no remedy other than waiting a few days to acclimate to a different solar cycle.

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  • [–] 43 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    When I was in university I designed a semester around only having afternoon+evening classes.

    I slept to 11 every day, which turned into staying up to 3 each night.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    I had a whole semester where classes where all in the morning (there was no choice until I had failed on the following years) and that whole semester I didn't go to any classes. Great times sleeping.

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    There's two parts, amount of sleep and teens have a later sleep schedule (ie night owl).

    But in any case just because some may abuse it doesn't mean we shouldn't have it for everyone else.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Uhh, yes? I think that is kind of the point. To acknowledge they do have a different sleep requirements than adults and elders.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    In terms of what time they go to bed? I might be missing something here but what I meant was that they'd just go to bed since school doesn't start that early, so they'd lack sleep again anyways.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The idea is that teenagers find it really hard to go to bed early. But school still starts very early. So they end up sleeping less than they should to function. The anti biology stance of "they should go to bed earlier" is not helpful. What's helpful is starting school later, let them have their vigil time into later hours, then they can sleep and recover fully, and do better at school. Thus potentially creating better educated adults.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    See there's your problem. We can't have all these better educated adults in a functioning society. They'll become all liberal and ruin our perfectly established capitalism with their cries for a living wage or whatever peasants call for these days.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    Can confirm. My last two years of high school it started at 9, and I'm now a leftist who believes decentralization is a virtue

    Imagine if I didn't have to get up at 6 the first 2 years...I might've even tried organizing or something. Instead I'm just tired most of the time

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