PHOENIX (AP) -- The 2024 presidential election is drawing an unusually robust field of independent, third party and long shot candidates hoping to capitalize on Americans' ambivalence and frustration over a likely rematch between Democrat Joe Biden and Republican Donald Trump.

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[+] -12 points 2 years ago (20 children)

Yeah the choice you're misrepresenting is its own choice. The choice to not participate, or to protest the incumbent. Unless you tick the box next to trump you're not voting for trump. If Biden wants support he has to earn it like everyone else. Blame all the idiots voting for trump, blame the DNC for shilling trump into the Whitehouse in 2016, or blame the two party system for creating this scenario sure, but blaming the people on the fringe trying to vote their conscious is just reinforcing the system that got us in this mess.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (16 children)

    Ex Republican here. We loved people like you. We joked about it constantly. A non voter is seen as a Republican vote because it meant we won in the end. Republican voters sort of understand on some level that they are the minority so they see non or protest voters as a victory.

    You vote Republican by not voting if you were planning on voting Democratic. It's that simple, no nuance needed.

    I blame you directly if Donald wins this time.

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  • [+] -17 points 2 years ago (15 children)

    Hahaha well you have a great track record for being absolutely wrong so no skin off my back.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (14 children)

    Being wrong when uneducated and indoctrinated is one thing. Continuing to be stupid in the face of overwhelming evidence is significantly worse. You are literally a joke to Republicans.

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  • [+] -9 points 2 years ago (13 children)

    They are a lot of pig fucking idiots, what do I care what they think? What evidence have you presented, aside from dogma and assertions? I never plan to vote Democrat. Democrats have never won my vote, they have just tried to bully me for it

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (12 children)

    I just spent a Thanksgiving listening to Republican voters discussing putting liberals and LGBTQ into camps. Stop trying to be righteous. We are living on the edge of the end you fucking idiot.

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  • [+] -6 points 2 years ago (11 children)

    Thats rich, you're eating with these people, breaking bread and kissing their cheek and telling me I'm the problem.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    It's surprising how complicated life is. I've cut off multiple family members but I can't control who is invited all the time dumbass. Stop being dense.

    Republicans love you for voting third party. And would put you in the camps with my educated ass.

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  • [+] -9 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    And its good to know enlightened Democrats will sit and eat with them as they plan to March me into a concentration camp. Thanks for your service, braver than the troops o7

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (8 children)
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    Oh no, a collaborator called me prideful and sinful, guess ill vote Democrat now!! Its laughable how you spineless fucks rationalize your way through this.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Be heated all you want. You are still acting the way Republicans want. Voting third party is a part of their wet dreams.

    Collaborator is a funny thing to call me. I am good at pretending to be Republican, which I will continue to do for my kid's sake. Is it right? IDK. Like I said before life is complex and IDK what is going to happen in the future.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    I guess thats the difference between us, you save your resistance for the ballot and are priveleged enough to pass through their lives in secret and try to do so. I try to live my resistance and the ballot is a small step along the way.

    If you and others like you lived your truth in every day life, the Republicans would not have a foothold.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Eh, kind of. I can't live my truth unless my family is safe. The ballot step is huge, it is between us and violence. That violence is the thing I want to avoid. I'm not above being violent but for me personally I can be more damaging by pretending to be something I'm not.

    I fully support you pushing for change, during the primary. I do the same. After that fucking do the right thing.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    The ballot step IS violence. It is funding apartheid in Palestine, border walls, domestic terrorism, police violence, Latin American coup, poverty and the list goes on.

    We never stop pushing for change or we lose. Change doesn't have a state sanctioned season. Change starts in the street before it shows on the ballot.

    Violence is not the only actions, marching in protests, stopping unlawful evictions, feeding the houseless, arming people with knowledge, prisoner support, mutual aid and support for grassroots efforts all foster material change. Direct action is the only thing that will stop fascism. That includes cutting off family but also leaving the fucking table or kicking em out of the house when they come to eat. Boss is a Nazi? Quit your job and tell everyone why. Ask for support when you need it. Remember if there are three people sitting at a table with 7 Nazis there are 10 Nazis at the table. When they start rounding people up are you going to shrug and say at least I voted for the other guy??

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    Lots of words to explain away bad decision making. Our system is broken because we have a Nazi party and a conservative party. If not voting gives more power to the Nazis, then you voted for them. I'll vote conservative(Dems) and be happy I'm not helping the Nazis. Absolutism only helps Nazis rise to power.

    Edit: you are making assumptions about how my thanksgiving happens.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Option 1 - eat pizza. Option 2 - eat burritos. Option 3 - eat burgers. Option 4 - eat shit.

    There are 5 people in your family and 2 of them are die hard shit eaters and 1 die hard burger eater. If you vote for a burrito, pizza, or don't vote you are eating shit.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago

    Except the burger is 50% ground shit. You were forced to est shit your whole life. Your best friend was sent far away by shit enforcement to eat shit somewhere else, and your neighbors are eating shit out of garbage can and lighting shit on fire to stay warm. The only time anyone seems to question why we are covered in shit is when the shit eaters win the vote, otherwise they are completely ignoring the shit eating party and are content to blame anyone who is eyeing the ecoli burrito for the fact we are eating shit.

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