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[–] 55 points 2 years ago (70 children)

Wake up call for who? Will the Democrats ever wake up and give their base something to vote for, instead of "hey, the other guys's worse, whaddya gonna do?".

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  • [–] 68 points 2 years ago (25 children)

    What the hell are you talking about???

    The dems have absolutely given us things to vote for: infrastructure act, record low unemployment, union support with the pres visiting the picket line for the first time ever, we have the best inflation rate across all of the G7.

    Yeah it’s not enough but that’s on the contrarians more than anything else.

    The fuck you talking about

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Mmmm, no. I heard that Biden and his ultra-centrist party have done nothing to stop deforestation in the Messia region of Mozambique. I'd rather have Trump and vote my conscience than allow globalists like Biden to ruin the Earth.

    (just in case... /s)

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    Haha. Perfectly captures the tune of many Democratic voters. It's the nature of it though. Isn't it? The Democrats are broad coalition of like-minded but not monolithic people. The Republicans are a hive mind, cultivated and fed fat on a strict diet of outrage and propaganda media by the billionaire class.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    America is becoming increasingly radicalized on both ends, the leftists must side with the center-right neoliberal while the fascists get to vote for fascists.

    It isn't surprising to see disappointment from leftists, even if they still absolutely should vote for the lesser of two evils.

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    investing in infrastructure

    The republican approved toll road bill that we got Elizabeth Warren style "let's split it into two bills!" except only the bad bill got passed?

    energy independence

    Are you seriously listing Obama fracking the shit out of the midwest as a positive?? And who the fuck benefited from the US becoming an energy exporter?

    college tuition assistance

    The fuck are you listing this for? Who's the one who not only refused to jubilee student debt but turned payments back on during an inflationary spike?

    NATO dealing with Ukraine

    What?? Again, who the fuck is the constituency for this? How is that going to change my landlord taking half my paycheck? And it's not like Ukraine even won the war.

    ending the war on drugs

    ???? ??? ???

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  • [+] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    Every single Republican

    Was in the minority. You can't use them as an excuse for what the democrats did.

    Literally republicans

    Biden chose to take a route with the debt that invited a challenge. He didn't want to discharge it. He's the senator from MBNA. The sanctity of debt is one of his foundational beliefs.

    He is the president. The treasury works for him. He holds the debt. He can and didn't simply write it off.

    the entire world who now don’t have to deal with escalation between Russia and the USA

    This is the sentence in which you called me a 'fucking idiot' and I have to say the idea that a proxy war doesn't count as escalation is one of the smartest things I've heard from you.

    But republicans are the party of the free market!

    Democrats are the party of letting everyone lose their home and have them be bought up by banks, who were bailed out when prices were low, who are now charging me half my income in rent.

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  • [–] 39 points 2 years ago (22 children)

    I think they do: https://www.whitehouse.gov/therecord/

    I just think the Dems suck at advertising it. Hell, I think Biden is trying for at least some student debt relief.

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  • [–] 34 points 2 years ago

    You aren't wrong, in a way. I'm nearing fifty and Biden is arguably the most progressive president in my lifetime. The problem is, that says more about the quality of presidents in my lifetime than it does about Biden, and with the climate crisis and encroaching global fascism, we don't have anymore time to wait. The Democrats are doing more, now, because pressure from the left has convinced them that they have to, but the leadership is still dragging their feet in defense of corporate profits as much as they can. The fact that they are doing more doesn't mean it's time to lower the pressure - it means the pressure is working, and we need to dial it up.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (12 children)

    I don't really agree with you, but even if I did... "advertising it" is a big part of politics! It's called messaging, and it's important. You have to get people excited to vote for you. They need to feel like you're fighting for them. If you can't manage that, then don't blame people for not voting for you.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    Yeah, but there's a couple things wrong. First, the Dems are trying to DO things, which is exceedingly difficult with a Republican Congress that can't even agree on a speaker.

    But also, DOING things just doesn't get that much attention.

    Fixing the threatening hyper-inflation after the PPP was pretty damn important, but they obviously can't advertise that because there are side effects. Our economy is returning to being based on real shit rather than make believe Venture Capital bullshit. That's a painful process, and of course the rich and corporations refuse to feel any of the pain (at least immediately). They're attempting to pawn all the pain off onto the working class, partly in the hope that they'll get more corporate tax cuts to "stimulate the economy".

    They're getting more EVs made in America. The significant tax credit for EVs require that most of the car be made here.

    They're fixing our crumbling bridges and roads. That doesn't get much attention, and if it does it'll be a part they've failed to address.

    Amtrak is building out passenger rail lines that are actually relevant to me. It's not building metro systems in several medium US cities that need it, but it's a start.

    You know a way that's much, much easier to get attention? Maybe the Dems should just pick a minority and spout fear and hate. That really plays much better with the public. Just put up a loud mouth who every other day spouts such incredibly dumb shit that the news HAS to cover it. That's a winning messaging strategy.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    I can't afford an EV. I can't afford a house. I can't afford gas. I can't afford groceries. I can't afford health insurance-- actually, I can afford the minimum insurance I am required to purchase, but it is basically worthless. This is the kind of shit I don't hear/see much convincing from Democrats. Yes, fuck the fascists in the Republican party. Unfortunately, fascism can look like an 'answer' for these kind of problems. If we don't want people to fall for that trap, we need popular politics coming from the left.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    I can’t afford gas. I can’t afford groceries.

    What do you expect any president to do about that?

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    President specifically, nothing. Government and a political party as a whole? Fix the problem.

    There's lots of ideas as to how to fix the problem, and though I have my own and have preferences, all that ultimately matters is that every single person in the country has a good place to live, food, and healthcare, and generally speaking, the ability to participate in society as much or as little as they choose.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    They don't suck. They just don't get any help from corporate media or social media.

    All corporate media is right wing media.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (3 children)

    I also think people cling to the negatives. With student debt relief, everyone was cynical as hell at the time and still attacked the Dems.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Biden wiped the debt. Republicans filed a lawsuit and a Republican judge overturned the order.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Biden used the weakest legal reasoning he had available to cancel a fraction of existing student loan debt even though debt relief advocates were telling him not to. That made it easy to challenge in court.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    They give money to run ads for the most insane GOP people so they can have easier opponents, they wanted Trump to win the primary because it would have made the GOP a laughingstock. Problem is over time this emboldens and normalizes this faction, and now it's just this death spiral where they can't change or the other faction will win, it's like this logical inevitability at this point. Dems said it loud and clear in 2016 they will choose a candidate friendly to donors over one that could easy win against Trump.

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