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The state of the discourse. (lemmy.world)
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[–] 38 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Might be a fun fact but it is not correct. Article 52 of the fourth convention is not related to hospitals. Article 52 of the 1st additional protocol is related to hospitals and it does not mean what you are saying it does. Geneva conventions do not define war crimes, that definition is given in the ICC Rome statutes.

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  • [–] 43 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Fair enough. The ICC Rome Statute specifically refers to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949. But per the ICC Rome statute on war crimes, Article 8, Section 2, Subsection (b), Clause (ix), the following is a war crime: "Intentionally directing attacks against buildings dedicated to religion, education, art, science or charitable purposes, historic monuments, hospitals and places where the sick and wounded are collected,provided they are not military objectives;"

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Still the collateral damage needs to be proportional and adequate measures need to be taken to minimise civillian casualties.

    So at least they would need to be able to evacuate. But Israel intentionally destroyed ambulances, cut water, electricity, fuel and communications, so it is impossible to evacuate the hospital. Israel did everything to make sure the civillian casualties will be high and that is nothing but a war crime and heinous murder.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    https://www.newarab.com/news/israel-gives-hospitals-gaza-hours-evacuate

    According to the Hamas propaganda Israel literally gave a one month head start on that demand when they did not control the area around the hospital.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago*

    “Israeli occupation asked the administrations of two hospitals, al-Awda and al-Quds in the north and centre of Gaza, to evacuate staff, sick people, and displaced people”.

    We are talking about al-Shifa now. Your source does not support your claim.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Just stating that they are a military objective (as IDF does) does not make it so.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    What about finding tunnels, weapons, bombs and having terrorists hiding and firing from within the hospital compound? Is that enough or does Hamas need to put up a sign reading "military objective" at the entrance?

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I mean they DID find like 9 guns and a calendar we were told was a hostage watching schedule.... so yea totally needs to be nuked just to be sure. /s

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    They've found a large amount of ammunition, IED and mortar shells in bedrooms, schools, mosques, hospitals, etc. Let's just turn the other cheek and let them use them to kill Israel's general population. No need for an /s

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  • [–] -4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    No need for an s? So you want them to kill Israelis? Wtf.

    How about being on the side of not killing anyone? Israel has all the power in this situation, and has for decades, but they show no signs of not wanting to just clear the Palestinians out.

    And before you go all 'but hamas' you would need to explain the west bank.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    No need for an s? So you want them to kill Israelis? Wtf.

    Is that really what you inferred from what I wrote?

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