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Andrewism on left unity or the lack thereof (www.youtube.com)

submitted 10 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's what bootleg fansubbed anime is for. :)

UwU

For me that's more of a social activity, though.

And that's fine for you. I just don't have the patience to sit through a video or audio lecture. I can read faster than these people can talk, and it's not like you can grep a video for keywords.

Oh yeah, I'm not trying to sell you on watching this one, just pointing out why some people do like video. The TL;DW is that leftists have never been unified, and never will be. We all have our differing goals and preferred means. Rather than trying to browbeat everyone into falling in line under a single unified ideology/party/platform/etc, we should just collaborate selectively on a per-project basis, and otherwise not worry about it.

Tankies are allergic to this notion, though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The TL;DW is that leftists have never been unified, and never will be. We all have our differing goals and preferred means. Rather than trying to browbeat everyone into falling in line under a single unified ideology/party/platform/etc, we should just collaborate selectively on a per-project basis, and otherwise not worry about it.

That sounds like Max Stirner's "union of egoists". Work with others when doing so helps gets you what you want.

Tankies are allergic to this notion, though.

Not just tankies. Try telling a social-justice type that the only identity you give a shit about is class identity. It's hilarious.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not just tankies. Try telling a social-justice type that the only identity you give a shit about is class identity. It's hilarious.

I might be a social-justice type, then. Class reductionism is appealing in its simplicity, but I don't think it's very productive. Like, it's fine to focus on a particular thing that you care about, but being unsympathetic to the things that others struggle with isn't going to garner sympathy in return. I see the parallel that you're pointing out, but I don't think it's the same.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Like, it's fine to focus on a particular thing that you care about, but being unsympathetic to the things that others struggle with isn't going to garner sympathy in return.

I'm a man. I don't expect sympathy, and when I get it I suspect an ulterior motive on the part of the person offering it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm a man.

Me too. As are most people that you'll currently encounter on lemmy.

I don't expect sympathy, and when I get it I suspect an ulterior motive on the part of the person offering it.

I meant more in the sense of "sympathy strike" rather than "sympathetic ear". It's useful to be able to collaborate with others on shared goals, both in pursuit of the anarchist cause and of one's personal interests. An attitude of "only class matters, shut up about feminism or queer liberation or whatever" is detrimental to said collaboration.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

An attitude of "only class matters, shut up about feminism or queer liberation or whatever" is detrimental to said collaboration.

True, but I'm not interested in collaborating with online "activists", especially if they jump into my mentions on an unrelated topic for a bit of sealioning. At that point they're fair game for trolling, and telling them that their concerns mean no more to me than mine do to them is both true, and a generally reliable tactic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Fair enough.