▲ 130 ▼ Barrie Ontario: 'Yes, you can get a ticket,' Cyclists slapped with hefty fine for blowing through stop sign (barrie.ctvnews.ca) submitted 3 years ago by CoffeeBot@lemmy.ca to c/bicycles@lemmy.ca 107 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] zeeps@lemmy.ca 23 points 3 years ago (2 children) If you're gonna ride your bicycle on the road, you better stop at a stop sign. Don't be an idiot. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ramjambamalam@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 years ago (1 child) I mean, I always yield at stop signs, but I am not likely to come to a complete stop on a bike if there is nobody to yield to. Many car drivers don't either, as any road user is already aware. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Szymon@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) "Oh they're doing it so I can do it to," said the pile of bones and guts spread out along the intersection. Cars have a little more protection than a bicyclist for the occupants of the vehicle. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ramjambamalam@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) If anything, the fact that cars are more likely to injure another road user than their occupants, is even more reason that they should come to a complete stop, moreso than any other road user. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Szymon@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) The rules and laws around using roads are designed without consideration for the type of vehicle using it. Everyone needs to stop at stop signs and red lights. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ramjambamalam@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago The rules and laws around using roads are designed without consideration for the type of vehicle using it. That's demonstrably false. Bikes are treated differently from cars in many regards. See: bike lanes, green "bike boxes" at intersections, rules for passing, highway access, etc. Why not the "Idaho stop"? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Polendri@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 years ago The "Idaho stop" (red as stop, stop as yield for cyclists) is a thing in several jurisdictions, and research shows it is as safe or safer that way. Still ought to follow the laws, but there's reason to want those laws to be different. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ramjambamalam@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 years ago (1 child) I mean, I always yield at stop signs, but I am not likely to come to a complete stop on a bike if there is nobody to yield to. Many car drivers don't either, as any road user is already aware. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Szymon@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) "Oh they're doing it so I can do it to," said the pile of bones and guts spread out along the intersection. Cars have a little more protection than a bicyclist for the occupants of the vehicle. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ramjambamalam@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) If anything, the fact that cars are more likely to injure another road user than their occupants, is even more reason that they should come to a complete stop, moreso than any other road user. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Szymon@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) The rules and laws around using roads are designed without consideration for the type of vehicle using it. Everyone needs to stop at stop signs and red lights. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ramjambamalam@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago The rules and laws around using roads are designed without consideration for the type of vehicle using it. That's demonstrably false. Bikes are treated differently from cars in many regards. See: bike lanes, green "bike boxes" at intersections, rules for passing, highway access, etc. Why not the "Idaho stop"? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Szymon@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) "Oh they're doing it so I can do it to," said the pile of bones and guts spread out along the intersection. Cars have a little more protection than a bicyclist for the occupants of the vehicle. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ramjambamalam@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) If anything, the fact that cars are more likely to injure another road user than their occupants, is even more reason that they should come to a complete stop, moreso than any other road user. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Szymon@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) The rules and laws around using roads are designed without consideration for the type of vehicle using it. Everyone needs to stop at stop signs and red lights. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ramjambamalam@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago The rules and laws around using roads are designed without consideration for the type of vehicle using it. That's demonstrably false. Bikes are treated differently from cars in many regards. See: bike lanes, green "bike boxes" at intersections, rules for passing, highway access, etc. Why not the "Idaho stop"? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ramjambamalam@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) If anything, the fact that cars are more likely to injure another road user than their occupants, is even more reason that they should come to a complete stop, moreso than any other road user. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Szymon@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) The rules and laws around using roads are designed without consideration for the type of vehicle using it. Everyone needs to stop at stop signs and red lights. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ramjambamalam@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago The rules and laws around using roads are designed without consideration for the type of vehicle using it. That's demonstrably false. Bikes are treated differently from cars in many regards. See: bike lanes, green "bike boxes" at intersections, rules for passing, highway access, etc. Why not the "Idaho stop"? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Szymon@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) The rules and laws around using roads are designed without consideration for the type of vehicle using it. Everyone needs to stop at stop signs and red lights. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ramjambamalam@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago The rules and laws around using roads are designed without consideration for the type of vehicle using it. That's demonstrably false. Bikes are treated differently from cars in many regards. See: bike lanes, green "bike boxes" at intersections, rules for passing, highway access, etc. Why not the "Idaho stop"? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ramjambamalam@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago The rules and laws around using roads are designed without consideration for the type of vehicle using it. That's demonstrably false. Bikes are treated differently from cars in many regards. See: bike lanes, green "bike boxes" at intersections, rules for passing, highway access, etc. Why not the "Idaho stop"? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Polendri@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 years ago The "Idaho stop" (red as stop, stop as yield for cyclists) is a thing in several jurisdictions, and research shows it is as safe or safer that way. Still ought to follow the laws, but there's reason to want those laws to be different. permalink fedilink source parent