▲ 872 ▼ You’re more likely to go to prison for exposing animal cruelty than for committing it (www.vox.com) submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by jeffw@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world 207 comments fedilink hide all child comments Not really sure what to put here...I usually put relevant excerpts, but that got this post deleted for doing that
[+] aniki@lemm.ee -6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] crazyminner@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) they're not food... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dragonflyteaparty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) So, I've seen this argument before. That humans should never eat meat because we have other options, but it's ok for animals. Given the opportunity, herbivores will eat meat on occasion. In your opinion, does that mean that humans are morally superior to every other thing on the face of the planet? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] crazyminner@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago Yes, we have moral agency, others do not. permalink fedilink source parent [–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah their argument breaks down very quickly. If humans are uniquely responsible for consuming meat but carnivorous animals aren't, then there's something special about humans which differentiates us from the carnivorous animals. And if we acknowledge that, that brings up a whole new host of questions. Is it wrong then for an enlightened species like us to give meat to our obligate carnivore pets? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WldFyre@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* Humans are moral agents, animals are not. The argument is that acknowledging we are different and have higher responsibilities is what obliges us to not eat animals when we don't need to. The argument doesn't break down at all, you nearly spelled it out yourself haha Edit: didn't realize you were the same person I responded to elsewhere in the thread, but I think this comment has more fleshed out info permalink fedilink source parent
[–] crazyminner@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) they're not food... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dragonflyteaparty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) So, I've seen this argument before. That humans should never eat meat because we have other options, but it's ok for animals. Given the opportunity, herbivores will eat meat on occasion. In your opinion, does that mean that humans are morally superior to every other thing on the face of the planet? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] crazyminner@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago Yes, we have moral agency, others do not. permalink fedilink source parent [–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah their argument breaks down very quickly. If humans are uniquely responsible for consuming meat but carnivorous animals aren't, then there's something special about humans which differentiates us from the carnivorous animals. And if we acknowledge that, that brings up a whole new host of questions. Is it wrong then for an enlightened species like us to give meat to our obligate carnivore pets? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WldFyre@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* Humans are moral agents, animals are not. The argument is that acknowledging we are different and have higher responsibilities is what obliges us to not eat animals when we don't need to. The argument doesn't break down at all, you nearly spelled it out yourself haha Edit: didn't realize you were the same person I responded to elsewhere in the thread, but I think this comment has more fleshed out info permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dragonflyteaparty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) So, I've seen this argument before. That humans should never eat meat because we have other options, but it's ok for animals. Given the opportunity, herbivores will eat meat on occasion. In your opinion, does that mean that humans are morally superior to every other thing on the face of the planet? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] crazyminner@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago Yes, we have moral agency, others do not. permalink fedilink source parent [–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah their argument breaks down very quickly. If humans are uniquely responsible for consuming meat but carnivorous animals aren't, then there's something special about humans which differentiates us from the carnivorous animals. And if we acknowledge that, that brings up a whole new host of questions. Is it wrong then for an enlightened species like us to give meat to our obligate carnivore pets? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WldFyre@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* Humans are moral agents, animals are not. The argument is that acknowledging we are different and have higher responsibilities is what obliges us to not eat animals when we don't need to. The argument doesn't break down at all, you nearly spelled it out yourself haha Edit: didn't realize you were the same person I responded to elsewhere in the thread, but I think this comment has more fleshed out info permalink fedilink source parent
[–] crazyminner@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago Yes, we have moral agency, others do not. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah their argument breaks down very quickly. If humans are uniquely responsible for consuming meat but carnivorous animals aren't, then there's something special about humans which differentiates us from the carnivorous animals. And if we acknowledge that, that brings up a whole new host of questions. Is it wrong then for an enlightened species like us to give meat to our obligate carnivore pets? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WldFyre@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* Humans are moral agents, animals are not. The argument is that acknowledging we are different and have higher responsibilities is what obliges us to not eat animals when we don't need to. The argument doesn't break down at all, you nearly spelled it out yourself haha Edit: didn't realize you were the same person I responded to elsewhere in the thread, but I think this comment has more fleshed out info permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WldFyre@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* Humans are moral agents, animals are not. The argument is that acknowledging we are different and have higher responsibilities is what obliges us to not eat animals when we don't need to. The argument doesn't break down at all, you nearly spelled it out yourself haha Edit: didn't realize you were the same person I responded to elsewhere in the thread, but I think this comment has more fleshed out info permalink fedilink source parent