▲ 430 ▼ Biden Wants Arms Deals With Israel to Be Done in Complete Secrecy, Without Congress (truthout.org) submitted 2 years ago by NightOwl@lemm.ee to c/worldnews@lemmy.ml 194 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] moonlit2107@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (81 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 81 child comments replies: [–] fiercekitten@lemm.ee 28 points 2 years ago (1 child) You getting downvoted for refusing to vote for Biden for a very valid reason is proof of how broken our two-party system is. This is why every state needs to pass ranked-choice voting. Maine did it and proved it could be done, and now they get to vote for who they actually /want/ without having their vote “spoiled”. Everyone in the US should be working to get ranked-choice voting in their state. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] 10nica@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago votesocialist2024.com permalink fedilink source parent [–] AnonTwo@kbin.social 23 points 2 years ago (10 children) Whoever you vote for will support Israel. US ally and all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments load more comments (10 replies) [–] Zorque@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago (18 children) Wee! We get full harm because you only want perfection at all times with no effort at all! Woohoo! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [+] moonlit2107@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (17 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (14 children) I really hope your 2016 vote went to an independent, then. I'm having a hard time seeing how Trump would ever do either of those things. Granted, he might thumbs-up an ethnic cleansing if it meant remaining in power. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments load more comments (14 replies) load more comments (2 replies) [–] Poggervania@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) Spoiler alert: This would have most likely happened regardless of the D or R next to the president’s name on the ballot. There’s two reasons I could see the US supporting Israel regardless of who’s in charge: the logical one because it has historical precedent is that the US wants Israel as a buffer for Russia due to it’s strategic location in the Middle-East, and the other reason is more conspiracy theory but I wouldn’t be surprised if the US can somehow get access to Palestine’s oil if Israel beats the shit out of the Hamas. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HobbitFoot 7 points 2 years ago Or third, Israel has invested a lot in American politics after Eisenhower used American economic power against Israeli allies in the Suez Crisis, seeing that it needed to be on good terms with at least one super power and the USA seemed like the more natural fit. This includes going as far as supporting any primary challenger that pledges Israeli support. It was either that or go the way of its apartheid nuclear buddy, South Africa. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Not_mikey@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Palestine doesn't have any oil. There's some offshore deposits in the Mediterranean but Israel already has full access to those. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (46 replies)
[–] fiercekitten@lemm.ee 28 points 2 years ago (1 child) You getting downvoted for refusing to vote for Biden for a very valid reason is proof of how broken our two-party system is. This is why every state needs to pass ranked-choice voting. Maine did it and proved it could be done, and now they get to vote for who they actually /want/ without having their vote “spoiled”. Everyone in the US should be working to get ranked-choice voting in their state. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] 10nica@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago votesocialist2024.com permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AnonTwo@kbin.social 23 points 2 years ago (10 children) Whoever you vote for will support Israel. US ally and all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments load more comments (10 replies)
[–] Zorque@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago (18 children) Wee! We get full harm because you only want perfection at all times with no effort at all! Woohoo! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [+] moonlit2107@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (17 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (14 children) I really hope your 2016 vote went to an independent, then. I'm having a hard time seeing how Trump would ever do either of those things. Granted, he might thumbs-up an ethnic cleansing if it meant remaining in power. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments load more comments (14 replies) load more comments (2 replies)
[+] moonlit2107@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (17 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (14 children) I really hope your 2016 vote went to an independent, then. I'm having a hard time seeing how Trump would ever do either of those things. Granted, he might thumbs-up an ethnic cleansing if it meant remaining in power. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments load more comments (14 replies) load more comments (2 replies)
[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (14 children) I really hope your 2016 vote went to an independent, then. I'm having a hard time seeing how Trump would ever do either of those things. Granted, he might thumbs-up an ethnic cleansing if it meant remaining in power. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments load more comments (14 replies)
[–] Poggervania@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) Spoiler alert: This would have most likely happened regardless of the D or R next to the president’s name on the ballot. There’s two reasons I could see the US supporting Israel regardless of who’s in charge: the logical one because it has historical precedent is that the US wants Israel as a buffer for Russia due to it’s strategic location in the Middle-East, and the other reason is more conspiracy theory but I wouldn’t be surprised if the US can somehow get access to Palestine’s oil if Israel beats the shit out of the Hamas. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HobbitFoot 7 points 2 years ago Or third, Israel has invested a lot in American politics after Eisenhower used American economic power against Israeli allies in the Suez Crisis, seeing that it needed to be on good terms with at least one super power and the USA seemed like the more natural fit. This includes going as far as supporting any primary challenger that pledges Israeli support. It was either that or go the way of its apartheid nuclear buddy, South Africa. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Not_mikey@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Palestine doesn't have any oil. There's some offshore deposits in the Mediterranean but Israel already has full access to those. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HobbitFoot 7 points 2 years ago Or third, Israel has invested a lot in American politics after Eisenhower used American economic power against Israeli allies in the Suez Crisis, seeing that it needed to be on good terms with at least one super power and the USA seemed like the more natural fit. This includes going as far as supporting any primary challenger that pledges Israeli support. It was either that or go the way of its apartheid nuclear buddy, South Africa. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Palestine doesn't have any oil. There's some offshore deposits in the Mediterranean but Israel already has full access to those. permalink fedilink source parent