485
Petition Calls on Microsoft to Extend Windows 10 Support | PCMag (www.pcmag.com)
submitted 2 years ago by to c/technology@lemmy.world
176 comments fedilink hide all child comments
 

I'm all for it.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] 48 points 2 years ago (28 children)

As a gamer, proton/lutris still isn't quite to the point that I am ready to make the jump. It's very close though and I'm going to make the switch probably in the next 24 months.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 28 child comments
    •
  • [–] 54 points 2 years ago (23 children)

    Typically, imo, most people who aren't ready to jump to Linux are there because their top couple of games are ruled by arrogant devs/publishers who balk at the idea of ticking an "enable proton compatibility" checkbox with their anticheat.

    From what I've seen Proton has hit a quality of compatibility that the games will just run, and typically better than Windows. If it doesn't run it's usually because it's too new and proton needs a patch, or the devs/publishers did the aforementioned "no, i won't tick the checkbox, it's too hard." bullshit.

    Basically, if your waiting on a game to be supported for proton, it may need to wait until Linux adoption hits around 20 percent before the devs/publishers get that bullshit idea out of their head.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 23 child comments
    •
  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    For me it's that a lot of the open source options to replace the Adobe and MS Office suites just always fall short. Trouble shooting Linux issues feels like hell after a lifetime of learning how to troubleshoot Windows issues.

    Adobe is the bane of my existence for many reasons, and I jump ship wherever I can. But GIMP doesn't really compare to Photoshop. Inkscape doesn't work well against illustrator - the only open source artistic creation software I swear by is blender. Davinci resolve isnt bad compared to premier pro though - but not After Effects.

    MS office isn't great either (why does Ms word operate like it exists in a separate instance of reality that's forever stuck in the 90s?!)

    Microsoft captured the corporate world and compatibility with the off brand stuff is a huge issue

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 9 child comments
    •
  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The one that got me recently when I tried Linux was mouse software. I couldn’t configure my mouse buttons even close to what I have on Windows (couldn’t use modifiers like shift or control on one mouse, to start), and it just felt bad.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
    •
  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Try Krita. It's pretty similar to photoshop. A few creature comforts will be lost, but not too many substantial things.

    However, if you really use the curved text feature of photoshop a lot, you may miss that.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
    •
  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (4 children)

    Interesting take. How does GIMP not compare to Photoshop?

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
    •
  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    gimp is like Photoshop 3.0 or something it's a piece of shit it's super old and it sucks

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
    •
  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    I feel like GIMP was a depraved person's creative exercise in designing a UI and workflow as fucking shit as humanly possible and then leaving it like that for a couple of decades while continuing to develop the program.

    But in reality I know it's probably due to the complexities of maintaining such an old project with limited resources and volunteers and I'm grateful something like it even exists.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
    •
  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Masking is not nearly as easy to apply. It's very quick to get smooth edges in your mask in Photoshop.

    Photoshop now has a built in AI (Beta Version) to generate backgrounds or add things to your image.

    In GIMP, you can only use one artboard (canvas) at a time. Photoshop can have multiple within one file

    Photoshop can link directly to illustrator and can handle vectors, not just rasterized images.

    Most of the scaling and filtering tools just tend to work better in Photoshop. Also The "Object Selection" tool in Photoshop is amazing. This doesn't exist in GIMP.

    Smart objects are nice too (Photoshop only) - makes it so you can edit one object and change it across multiple artboards + other functionality.

    And one of my biggest issues, GIMP can't edit pictures in CMYK - it's a big work around just to try and export your sRGB image to CMYK in GIMP, but your colors will change.

    Literally the only thing I like GIMP over Photoshop for is that it's easier to add gradients with a transparency

    Edit:

    Oh and gimp is good at changing specific color hues quickly. But that's all I've found

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    “enable proton compatibility” checkbox with their anticheat.

    Isn't proton mainly a steam thing?

    Because honestly, the reason I'm not jumping to linux, is all the heavily modded GOG stuff and nexus mod manager.

    That and bad experiences in the past.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
    •
  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    If you get the heroic launcher, you can install proton or proton GE and use them on Epic Games or GOG games. I'm pretty sure there is a way of doing it without a launcher but it is less user friendly. I also prefer Heroic to Lutris.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    if your waiting on a game to be supported for proton, it may need to wait until Linux adoption hits around 20 percent before the devs/publishers get that bullshit idea out of their head.

    So never.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 5 child comments
    •
  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago* (4 children)

    Valve may be single handily driving better Linux adoption rates with Steam deck.

    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/08/linux-surpasses-the-mac-among-steam-gamers/

    And performance on Linux is outpacing Windows

    https://video.hardlimit.com/w/uZGK12oU5FeSsy8CDLP4hD

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
    •
  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    17℅ advantage? Daaamn hope these aren't anomalies, because like 2 years ago Wine performance only lagged behind like 5℅, and this sounds too good to be true for me.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 3 child comments
    •
  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    Its a combination of Vulkan and Valve paying devs to work on Proton.

    Vulkan is a fantastic Graphics API. Vulkan is more optimized than DirectX, and it's so much better than DirectX that the DXVK (DirectX to Vulkan) Wrapper that Proton implements makes games run better, despite the fact it's running through an obfuscation.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I have no allegiance to either, the second Linux is consistently beating Windows and compatible with 95%ish of new releases I’m in. Steam Deck proved that it is a matter of time I think, thank you Valve 🙏

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
    •
  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    I literally game on nothing else right now.

    Sure, in an ideal world I’d be rocking 4k and max settings, but I just want to play the games. I’ve been so tied up for the last 8 years that I have a wonderful back catalog of games to play. I’m currently playing RDR2 and holy shit it might be the greatest game ever made.

    I dock it for older games that I need keyboard and mouse to play.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    nobody is jumping to Linux except developers and Linux users. ive used it every day for 20 years. it departments aren't putting it on employee machines. your mom isn't going to install it on her laptop that she uses to do her taxes and play the sims 3. it's not ever going to happen because Linux isn't software that's meant to do that.

    you're not only naive if you think "the year of the linux desktop" is a real thing, you're illogical and you're probably an idiot. it doesn't even make sense. reddit is so full of toilet optimism that it has no idea what's going on.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
    •
  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    You haven't been paying attention. Literally the best selling item on Steam for nearly a year and a half was a Linux Gaming PC.

    Linux is far more flexible than Windows. The nature of open source is what enables such flexibility. The only reason Linux hasn't been adopted by many is simply because of the chicken and egg issue.

    Microsoft and Apple had made a monopoly on the market for desktop computers, And since the desktop market share was so low for linux, few devs developed desktop software for Linux. Which then in turn kept Linux from gaining marketshare.

    But the times are changing. Wine, Proton, Lutris and Multi-Platform web app tools have lead to a world where devs can simply just mindlessly go "oh yeah I guess we can enable linux builds/proton supported builds." and just forget about it.

    For example, lets say it was 2006 and Discord was just released in that time period. Instead of being a web app, they built a client that communicated using an API for Discord. Well, more than likely that official client was Windows and maybe MacOS exclusive. They built it from the ground up, and sure it has an API and sure a linux client may exist. But it would never be 1:1 with the official client.

    This was the most likely thing to happen, and theres no way you can convince grandma to try Linux when all of her basic apps don't work anymore.

    Fast forward to 2023. Unless Grandma is using Adobe software, Linux will work fine. Chromebooks sold well for basic users afterall.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Are you kidding? I made the jump a month ago and get better performance across the board gaming with proton/lutris than I did with windows.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 3 child comments
    •
  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Some things just aren't good enough yet.

    Like VR compatibility and performance, particularly with nvidia and quest headsets.

    Otherwise yeah, 99% of my games would run perfectly fine.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
    •