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[–] 400 points 2 years ago (21 children)

Other clips from the rally went viral as well, including Trump saying, “I’m for us. You know how you spell us, right? U.S. I just picked that up. Has anyone ever thought of that before?”

I hate this timeline so much.

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  • [+] 116 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)
  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    What's even sadder is that it's millions of people that some of us used to look up to and respect, now we just have a bunch of sad brainwashed shells of the people they used to be before Trump/conservative propaganda got ahold of them. They broke our communities and now they've broken our families, now all that's left is for them to break is us.

    I'm not the biggest Hillary fan but she's been right about the Trump Qult from day 1 and this is a great essay from her about this topic:

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/08/hillary-clinton-essay-loneliness-epidemic/674921/

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago*

    Hillary definitely isn't the person who needs to be delivering this message, but the message resounds.

    Her being right about the Trump cult doesn't make her any less of a milquetoast Democrat who only started caring about things like gay marriage when public opinion supported it. Any politician who can't stand by values and instead changes tack based on public opinion is a shitheel.

    She was right about them being Deplorables and she is right about their isolation and loneliness being part of why they're able to be weaponized.

    That doesn't make her any less of the person whose campaign strategy was to promote Donald Trump during the primaries, and then failed to do on-the-ground rallies in swing states that she lost electorally. She actually won the popular election, by quite a bit. She was pretty much one of the few people who could have lost to Trump. Jeb Bush was also running the same year, and after two Bushes and one Clinton presidencies, I think the Democratic party really underestimated people's dislike of political dynasties.

    Anyway, right message, wrong person to be delivering it because her fucking hubris and thinking that Trump was gonna be easy to beat is part of what got us in this stupid fucking festering mess.

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  • [–] 88 points 2 years ago* (6 children)

    Jesus. This sounds like literally every parody version of George W Bush, trying to get a laugh out of how massively exaggerated they made his stupidity.

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  • [–] 42 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

    Just because Donald Trump is a moron doesn't mean George W Bush wasn't incredibly stupid. Both things can be true.

    Let's not forget that Bush only graduated from college because his parents donated money to keep him from being given failing grades and flunking out.

    There are entire buildings on the Yale campus that only exist because W was such a poor student.

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  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago

    Bush was an average student academically, not excelling but also not failing. He excelled in social skills though. He was able to remember names and details of everyone in a room. He was convivial and enthusiastic. He was a member of many clubs, groups, and societies. He was proof that being liked is sometimes more important than being smart.

    Trump is not either. He's proof that if you keep telling people that you're better than them then lots of them will believe you.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago*

    Just because Donald Trump is a moron doesn’t mean George W Bush wasn’t incredibly stupid. Both things can be true.

    I'm not saying otherwise, but do you remember when parody movies were all the rage, and GWB was always portrayed as having the intelligence of a 5 year old?

    Example:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BAM5hMMp0M

    “I’m for us. You know how you spell us, right? U.S. I just picked that up. Has anyone ever thought of that before?”

    Tell me this doesn't sound like a line from one of those.

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