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Chinese shipbuilding capacity over 200 times greater than US, Navy intelligence says (archive.ph)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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The slide's authenticity was confirmed by a Navy spokesperson, who cautioned that it was not meant to be an in-depth analysis.

The slide shows that Chinese shipyards have a capacity of about 23.2 million tons compared to less than 100,000 tons in the U.S., making Chinese shipbuilding capacity more than 232 times greater than that of the U.S.

The slide also shows the "battle force composition" of the countries' two navies side-by-side, which includes "combatant ships, submarines, mine warfare ships, major amphibious ships, and large combat support auxiliary ships." The ONI estimated that China had 355 such naval vessels in 2020 while the U.S. had 296. The disparity is expected to continue to grow every five years until 2035, when China will have an estimated 475 naval ships compared to 305-317 U.S. ships.

Another section of the slide provides an estimate on the percentage each country allocates to naval production in its shipyards, with China garnering roughly 70% of its shipbuilding revenue from naval production, compared to about 95% of American shipbuilding revenue.

Because of China's centrally planned economy, the country is able to control labor costs and provide subsidies to its shipbuilding infrastructure, allowing the Chinese to outbid most competitors around the world and dominate the commercial shipping industry, Sadler said.

Alternative title - "Central planning is more efficient than markets" confirms US Navy

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even if the numbers are off by a fair bit it seems obvious to me that China has a big advantage when it comes to production in comparison to the USA in most sectors.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

also it doesn't matter war between china and america would be nuclear

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Well even if we ignore military matters. A robust shipbuilding industry generates economic benefits through job creation, technology development, and exports of naval vessels to other countries. This can boost China's economy and enhance its defense industrial base. China having a massive tradefleet seems like a big advantage for them. (Just musings of a layman)

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

yeah I agree China has a strong manufacturing industry which has made them a world power

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

MAD is weird, if the PLA didn't exist at all the US could just roll up and blockade china and say "cool you have nukes, if you use them then we retaliate and a billion of your people die" and that's that

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

that is true but MAD also means that the US and China can never afford to get into a direct conflict. If China were to invade Taiwan America could supply Taiwan arms but China seem to have far too much sense for that after all why go to war when you're winning the peace

China also don't seem interested in military involvement in conflicts they have no stake in