▲ 738 ▼ Mazda’s DMCA takedown kills a hobbyist’s smart car API tool (arstechnica.com) submitted 2 years ago by DocMcStuffin@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 113 comments fedilink hide all child comments Mazda is angry a customer used an API in a manner they couldn't control. You can read the DMCA takedown notice here.
[+] AeroLemming@lemm.ee 38 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (21 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 21 child comments replies: [+] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Motorcycle? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ZiemekZ@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago SYM MaxSym 600i ABS, this 565cc maxi-scooter is the first to launch from a green light in cities and has nothing to be ashamed of on highways since it can do 160 kph with some spare power still remaining. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FakinUpCountryDegen@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (15 children) I'll move closer to the city and walk or use public transit. Frankly, that's unlikely. The free market will always make sure someone is there to disrupt, and I'll always support the disruptor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [+] AeroLemming@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ililiililiililiilili@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) Here's a citation for your statement, mate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] AeroLemming@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ililiililiililiilili@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago 🤷♂️ I'm just trying to spread some knowledge to anyone who missed that report from Mozilla. permalink fedilink source parent [–] wavebeam@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I supported the disruptor to cable so hard they became the thing they disrupted and now I don’t have netflix permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FakinUpCountryDegen@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago Really? The most expensive Netflix plan available is still 1/5th what the TV portion of my cable bill was... I still have it, but honestly probably not for long because I just don't use it. Sail the high seas and don't support the culture-destroying shit! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (4 children) Perhaps for chapter consumer products, but starting a car company that produces normal mass produced cars is not really done overnight. And Tesla produces the most shite cars of all of them only really disrupting by cutting out customer service at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FakinUpCountryDegen@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (3 children) You're probably referring to that study showing Tesla with 250 problems-on-delivery per 100 cars... I don't own a Tesla or know anyone who does, but it's worth noting the vast, vast majority of those problems are cosmetic, and fixed before the car leaves the customer service facility. If you see the graphic for that study, there are some pretty huge names way down on the list just above Tesla - and those are not mostly cosmetic issues. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (2 children) No it was in Norway. Tesla sold 21303 new cars in Norway in 2022. Total new car sales for Norway in 2022 was 174329. Tesla Model Y is the most sold new car in Norway and Tesla is the largest brand. Totally electric cars is 79.3% of all new cars (Norway has pretty generous tax incentives on electric cars making even high end Teslas pretty cheap) 83 out of 168 cases that ended up in "consumer court" (that is they have not been resolved without mediation) was Tesla. These cases are mostly not cosmetic but more serious issues that has not been resolved. Edit: you can argue that with more sold cars they get more complaints. But Tesla has approximately 12 % of the market but 49% of the cases so they are over represented in Norway at least permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago It might be it's because of Teslas business model. They protract the cases, and gamle on it not going to mediation. (Customer gives up) and that the US head office is required to evaluate the case, rather than the local or national dealer. In either case I don't want shite US late stage capitalist business practices in Norway so Tesla can fuck right off. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FakinUpCountryDegen@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago Careful, now... We're not allowed to say that a higher percent of bad things are the fault of a tiny percent of the total group of actors, even if the data is objectively true! 😉 permalink fedilink source parent [–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk -2 points 2 years ago (3 children) Disrupters like Tesla? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] FakinUpCountryDegen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago You're right, Tesla has certainly been a disruptor in some ways - nobody could argue with that... I assume you're baiting an argument of some sort, based on experience with the maturity level around here... permalink fedilink source parent [–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) If ironic, well done. If serious, I’m sorry for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 3 points 2 years ago It's best to remain ambiguous. permalink fedilink source parent [–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) When that happens, someone appears to make their version of the product without it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DudeDudenson@lemmings.world 4 points 2 years ago That's, that's simply not true permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Motorcycle? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ZiemekZ@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago SYM MaxSym 600i ABS, this 565cc maxi-scooter is the first to launch from a green light in cities and has nothing to be ashamed of on highways since it can do 160 kph with some spare power still remaining. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ZiemekZ@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago SYM MaxSym 600i ABS, this 565cc maxi-scooter is the first to launch from a green light in cities and has nothing to be ashamed of on highways since it can do 160 kph with some spare power still remaining. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FakinUpCountryDegen@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (15 children) I'll move closer to the city and walk or use public transit. Frankly, that's unlikely. The free market will always make sure someone is there to disrupt, and I'll always support the disruptor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [+] AeroLemming@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ililiililiililiilili@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) Here's a citation for your statement, mate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] AeroLemming@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ililiililiililiilili@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago 🤷♂️ I'm just trying to spread some knowledge to anyone who missed that report from Mozilla. permalink fedilink source parent [–] wavebeam@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I supported the disruptor to cable so hard they became the thing they disrupted and now I don’t have netflix permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FakinUpCountryDegen@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago Really? The most expensive Netflix plan available is still 1/5th what the TV portion of my cable bill was... I still have it, but honestly probably not for long because I just don't use it. Sail the high seas and don't support the culture-destroying shit! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (4 children) Perhaps for chapter consumer products, but starting a car company that produces normal mass produced cars is not really done overnight. And Tesla produces the most shite cars of all of them only really disrupting by cutting out customer service at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FakinUpCountryDegen@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (3 children) You're probably referring to that study showing Tesla with 250 problems-on-delivery per 100 cars... I don't own a Tesla or know anyone who does, but it's worth noting the vast, vast majority of those problems are cosmetic, and fixed before the car leaves the customer service facility. If you see the graphic for that study, there are some pretty huge names way down on the list just above Tesla - and those are not mostly cosmetic issues. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (2 children) No it was in Norway. Tesla sold 21303 new cars in Norway in 2022. Total new car sales for Norway in 2022 was 174329. Tesla Model Y is the most sold new car in Norway and Tesla is the largest brand. Totally electric cars is 79.3% of all new cars (Norway has pretty generous tax incentives on electric cars making even high end Teslas pretty cheap) 83 out of 168 cases that ended up in "consumer court" (that is they have not been resolved without mediation) was Tesla. These cases are mostly not cosmetic but more serious issues that has not been resolved. Edit: you can argue that with more sold cars they get more complaints. But Tesla has approximately 12 % of the market but 49% of the cases so they are over represented in Norway at least permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago It might be it's because of Teslas business model. They protract the cases, and gamle on it not going to mediation. (Customer gives up) and that the US head office is required to evaluate the case, rather than the local or national dealer. In either case I don't want shite US late stage capitalist business practices in Norway so Tesla can fuck right off. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FakinUpCountryDegen@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago Careful, now... We're not allowed to say that a higher percent of bad things are the fault of a tiny percent of the total group of actors, even if the data is objectively true! 😉 permalink fedilink source parent [–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk -2 points 2 years ago (3 children) Disrupters like Tesla? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] FakinUpCountryDegen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago You're right, Tesla has certainly been a disruptor in some ways - nobody could argue with that... I assume you're baiting an argument of some sort, based on experience with the maturity level around here... permalink fedilink source parent [–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) If ironic, well done. If serious, I’m sorry for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 3 points 2 years ago It's best to remain ambiguous. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] AeroLemming@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ililiililiililiilili@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) Here's a citation for your statement, mate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] AeroLemming@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ililiililiililiilili@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago 🤷♂️ I'm just trying to spread some knowledge to anyone who missed that report from Mozilla. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ililiililiililiilili@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) Here's a citation for your statement, mate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] AeroLemming@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ililiililiililiilili@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago 🤷♂️ I'm just trying to spread some knowledge to anyone who missed that report from Mozilla. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] AeroLemming@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ililiililiililiilili@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago 🤷♂️ I'm just trying to spread some knowledge to anyone who missed that report from Mozilla. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ililiililiililiilili@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago 🤷♂️ I'm just trying to spread some knowledge to anyone who missed that report from Mozilla. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wavebeam@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I supported the disruptor to cable so hard they became the thing they disrupted and now I don’t have netflix permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FakinUpCountryDegen@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago Really? The most expensive Netflix plan available is still 1/5th what the TV portion of my cable bill was... I still have it, but honestly probably not for long because I just don't use it. Sail the high seas and don't support the culture-destroying shit! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FakinUpCountryDegen@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago Really? The most expensive Netflix plan available is still 1/5th what the TV portion of my cable bill was... I still have it, but honestly probably not for long because I just don't use it. Sail the high seas and don't support the culture-destroying shit! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (4 children) Perhaps for chapter consumer products, but starting a car company that produces normal mass produced cars is not really done overnight. And Tesla produces the most shite cars of all of them only really disrupting by cutting out customer service at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FakinUpCountryDegen@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (3 children) You're probably referring to that study showing Tesla with 250 problems-on-delivery per 100 cars... I don't own a Tesla or know anyone who does, but it's worth noting the vast, vast majority of those problems are cosmetic, and fixed before the car leaves the customer service facility. If you see the graphic for that study, there are some pretty huge names way down on the list just above Tesla - and those are not mostly cosmetic issues. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (2 children) No it was in Norway. Tesla sold 21303 new cars in Norway in 2022. Total new car sales for Norway in 2022 was 174329. Tesla Model Y is the most sold new car in Norway and Tesla is the largest brand. Totally electric cars is 79.3% of all new cars (Norway has pretty generous tax incentives on electric cars making even high end Teslas pretty cheap) 83 out of 168 cases that ended up in "consumer court" (that is they have not been resolved without mediation) was Tesla. These cases are mostly not cosmetic but more serious issues that has not been resolved. Edit: you can argue that with more sold cars they get more complaints. But Tesla has approximately 12 % of the market but 49% of the cases so they are over represented in Norway at least permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago It might be it's because of Teslas business model. They protract the cases, and gamle on it not going to mediation. (Customer gives up) and that the US head office is required to evaluate the case, rather than the local or national dealer. In either case I don't want shite US late stage capitalist business practices in Norway so Tesla can fuck right off. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FakinUpCountryDegen@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago Careful, now... We're not allowed to say that a higher percent of bad things are the fault of a tiny percent of the total group of actors, even if the data is objectively true! 😉 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FakinUpCountryDegen@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (3 children) You're probably referring to that study showing Tesla with 250 problems-on-delivery per 100 cars... I don't own a Tesla or know anyone who does, but it's worth noting the vast, vast majority of those problems are cosmetic, and fixed before the car leaves the customer service facility. If you see the graphic for that study, there are some pretty huge names way down on the list just above Tesla - and those are not mostly cosmetic issues. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (2 children) No it was in Norway. Tesla sold 21303 new cars in Norway in 2022. Total new car sales for Norway in 2022 was 174329. Tesla Model Y is the most sold new car in Norway and Tesla is the largest brand. Totally electric cars is 79.3% of all new cars (Norway has pretty generous tax incentives on electric cars making even high end Teslas pretty cheap) 83 out of 168 cases that ended up in "consumer court" (that is they have not been resolved without mediation) was Tesla. These cases are mostly not cosmetic but more serious issues that has not been resolved. Edit: you can argue that with more sold cars they get more complaints. But Tesla has approximately 12 % of the market but 49% of the cases so they are over represented in Norway at least permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago It might be it's because of Teslas business model. They protract the cases, and gamle on it not going to mediation. (Customer gives up) and that the US head office is required to evaluate the case, rather than the local or national dealer. In either case I don't want shite US late stage capitalist business practices in Norway so Tesla can fuck right off. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FakinUpCountryDegen@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago Careful, now... We're not allowed to say that a higher percent of bad things are the fault of a tiny percent of the total group of actors, even if the data is objectively true! 😉 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (2 children) No it was in Norway. Tesla sold 21303 new cars in Norway in 2022. Total new car sales for Norway in 2022 was 174329. Tesla Model Y is the most sold new car in Norway and Tesla is the largest brand. Totally electric cars is 79.3% of all new cars (Norway has pretty generous tax incentives on electric cars making even high end Teslas pretty cheap) 83 out of 168 cases that ended up in "consumer court" (that is they have not been resolved without mediation) was Tesla. These cases are mostly not cosmetic but more serious issues that has not been resolved. Edit: you can argue that with more sold cars they get more complaints. But Tesla has approximately 12 % of the market but 49% of the cases so they are over represented in Norway at least permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago It might be it's because of Teslas business model. They protract the cases, and gamle on it not going to mediation. (Customer gives up) and that the US head office is required to evaluate the case, rather than the local or national dealer. In either case I don't want shite US late stage capitalist business practices in Norway so Tesla can fuck right off. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FakinUpCountryDegen@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago Careful, now... We're not allowed to say that a higher percent of bad things are the fault of a tiny percent of the total group of actors, even if the data is objectively true! 😉 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago It might be it's because of Teslas business model. They protract the cases, and gamle on it not going to mediation. (Customer gives up) and that the US head office is required to evaluate the case, rather than the local or national dealer. In either case I don't want shite US late stage capitalist business practices in Norway so Tesla can fuck right off. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FakinUpCountryDegen@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago Careful, now... We're not allowed to say that a higher percent of bad things are the fault of a tiny percent of the total group of actors, even if the data is objectively true! 😉 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk -2 points 2 years ago (3 children) Disrupters like Tesla? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] FakinUpCountryDegen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago You're right, Tesla has certainly been a disruptor in some ways - nobody could argue with that... I assume you're baiting an argument of some sort, based on experience with the maturity level around here... permalink fedilink source parent [–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) If ironic, well done. If serious, I’m sorry for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 3 points 2 years ago It's best to remain ambiguous. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FakinUpCountryDegen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago You're right, Tesla has certainly been a disruptor in some ways - nobody could argue with that... I assume you're baiting an argument of some sort, based on experience with the maturity level around here... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) If ironic, well done. If serious, I’m sorry for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 3 points 2 years ago It's best to remain ambiguous. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 3 points 2 years ago It's best to remain ambiguous. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) When that happens, someone appears to make their version of the product without it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DudeDudenson@lemmings.world 4 points 2 years ago That's, that's simply not true permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DudeDudenson@lemmings.world 4 points 2 years ago That's, that's simply not true permalink fedilink source parent