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[–] 8 points 3 years ago (14 children)

Or they're a tool to give the employee some quantifiable and measurable areas they need to improve on. This way both sides are clear of expectations and there's no surprises.

Not all bosses suck. I've had to put a few people on them and they've helped, never had to fire someone afterwards.

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  • [–] 26 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    That's certainly a possibility, but if someone told me they were put on a PIP, and asked me what they should expect, I'd tell them that in all likelihood it means that they are going to be let go in the near future.

    It's a different story if the company does regular performance management with all employees. For example I work in the public sector and we do annual performance reviews, but also annual performance agreements, which are basically PIPs but without the prerequisite that performance has diminished.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    Well yes. A PIP is a last resort. It's what you do when coaching, mentoring, and flat out ordering haven't worked. If you get to this stage you're at the precipice.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    This 100%. If you're at the point where a PIP is happening, the employee shouldn't be surprised by it.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    What does the half shield next to your username mean?

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    At my previous job I think they actually published stats on pips internally and it was like 50% success rate. I mean it's not great but the alternative is you just get straight up fired. I think PIP is probably generally a good thing.

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  • [+] -6 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    "Not all bosses suck"

    Said By: A boss that fires people.

    That tracks.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Firing people does not mean you're a bad boss.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Nah you just don't get it. Firing is a capitalist invention designed by the elite to keep the population down. Everyone is an excellent employee and every manager everywhere is getting a bonus and poorly utilizing team skills.

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