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Why does this community, which is privacy oriented, use Discord rather than Matrix? (lemm.ee)
submitted 2 years ago by to c/privacy@lemmy.ml
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On the side bar it lists the following:

  • [Matrix/Element]Dead
  • Discord

"Discord" is an active link, but the Matrix link is completely inactive. Not only is it inactive (which could have be excused as a broken link), but it is also manually labeled as "Dead", as if there is no intention of making it work. How can a community that is focused on privacy willingly favor a service that is privacy non-respecting when a perfectly functional privacy-respecting alternative exists?

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[–] 31 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Tencent is not a data collection company. Discord is not owned by tencent instead tencent and tons of other companies have invested in discord. https://businessmodelanalyst.com/who-owns-discord/

Tencent itself doesn't get discords data. Tencent is not required by law to pass all user information to CCP.

Discord like any communication systems is required to pass data to all major governments when they are investigating crime. Such as the USA and FBI. Your lemmy instance does the same thing.

Please state facts rather than misinformation. If you are going to pass off these facts provide sources.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    Pretty much all companies are data collection companies, or they have data collection services tacked onto their software. However, in this case, Tencent is a company in China, and China is a data collection country.

    Tencent is not required by law to pass all user information to CCP.

    If China wants to see it, then yes they are required by law to pass information to the CCP.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    China is a data collection country.

    Cause the USA isn't?

    If China wants to see it, then yes they are required by law to pass information to the CCP.

    You should look up the PRISM program.

    If you are going to label Tencent as purely a data collection company belonging to a data collection country then let me remind you that Linux had a social media site that collected a lot of information that could have been turned over to the US federal law enforcement due to prism and the US laws SCA and CLOUD acts.

    So literally if that's your definition, the Linux Foundation is a data collection company too.

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  • [+] -10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Your only source is to counter a claim I didn't make. I'm not going to do your homework. If you're worried about privacy, don't use Discord. That's the short version.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    A majority stake of Discord is owned by Tencent

    You said this. My source proves this wrong.

    You are spreading misinformation. I am not going to do your homework to prove your claims.

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