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Why does this community, which is privacy oriented, use Discord rather than Matrix? (lemm.ee)
submitted 2 years ago by to c/privacy@lemmy.ml
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On the side bar it lists the following:

  • [Matrix/Element]Dead
  • Discord

"Discord" is an active link, but the Matrix link is completely inactive. Not only is it inactive (which could have be excused as a broken link), but it is also manually labeled as "Dead", as if there is no intention of making it work. How can a community that is focused on privacy willingly favor a service that is privacy non-respecting when a perfectly functional privacy-respecting alternative exists?

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[–] 43 points 2 years ago (15 children)

If you compromise on the very topic you're promoting, you don't care enough.

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  • [–] 51 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    Wait, really? So you think Matrix is the ultimate form of secure and private "chat" communities? Because if it is not then it is a compromise.

    This Lemmy instance for sure as hell is not the most private and secure.

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  • [–] 47 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    It's a lot better than discord, that's for sure

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago*

    That depends on your threat model. All lemmy posts are publicly visible and can be scooped up by Farcebook, google et al. Discord is very definitely not properly private but all posts aren't public. They are undoubtedly doing the same thing FB does and selling a semi anonymised set of meta data about you, but the world doesn't have direct visibility

    I know the three letter acronyms have access to everything I do, hidden or not, I don't like it but I don't see anyway around it.

    I can however do my level best to keep FB, google, M$ out of my stuff to some extent

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (4 children)

    They said a "big" compromise? Why did you skip over their qualifier? Are all compromises equal?

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Where did they say that?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    I dunno. The comment doesn't have the word in it now; that's why #1981 is important. But, maybe they didn't and I imagined it.

    It remains true that not all compromises are equal, and the privacy compromises we make for Discord are relatively large compared to the ones for Matrix.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    There is an "edited" indicator for posts, and the post you're referring to doesn't have it.

    Sure, your point is true, but you were (incorrectly) accusing the other commenter of skipping a qualifier that would make your point relevant.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    You're right; Voyager doesn't show the "edited" flag.

    I was mistaken about the word, and the accusation about skipping over it was unwarrented.

    I think this is missing the point by arguing semantics, but my phrasing was wrong.

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