▲ 281 ▼ ‘Star Trek: Prodigy’ Finds New Home At Netflix After Paramount+ Cancellation (deadline.com) submitted 2 years ago by ValueSubtracted@startrek.website [M] to c/startrek@startrek.website 57 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] xkforce@lemmy.world 47 points 2 years ago (6 children) Just delaying the inevitable given netflix kills shows after the 2nd season permalink fedilink source hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] ray@kbin.social 39 points 2 years ago (2 children) Not always. Sometimes they do it after the first season. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) only if there are gay people involved and being happy also i'm still angry and bitter about gypsy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HardlightCereal@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago And Lockwood permalink fedilink source parent [–] samus12345@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago RIP T_T permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bonehead@kbin.social 16 points 2 years ago* (1 child) It's at least one more season than Paramount gave us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gregorum@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Technically, they’re the ones giving us the second season (as in they’re still paying for production), but they’re not the ones streaming it. I still don’t get why they’re doing this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website [S] 21 points 2 years ago (1 child) Paramount+, the streamer, cancelled it. CBS Studios, the producer, kept it going and found a new buyer. Two separate entities, even though they're both subsidiaries of the same parent company. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PutangInaMo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago That clears it up for me thanks permalink fedilink source parent [–] FelipeFelop@discuss.online 11 points 2 years ago Apparently it’s a tax write off. It’s risky though because a) Star Trek is no longer all in one place b) if it’s a hit then Netflix benefit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] koreth@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago* (2 children) I don’t think Netflix actually cancels shows after two seasons any more often than other networks do. Somehow people got it into their heads that Netflix is far more cancel-happy than its competitors, but if you look at the numbers, traditional TV networks have had like a 50% cancellation rate for decades. Even TOS was cancelled after two seasons! If Netflix is more prone to cancelling shows at all, which I’m not convinced is even true, it can’t be by an enormous margin. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 14 points 2 years ago Actually there’s both metric evidence and statements by senior Netflix executives that a show has to do well in the first few weeks to be renewed. They’re also very committed to their drop it all at once, or at most in 2 parts per season. So it creates an environment where shows are rarely renewed unless they are top of the streaming charts. They may have a different decision criteria for kid and family shows though. permalink fedilink source parent [–] wahming@monyet.cc 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) There was an article a few weeks ago about how Netflix only has about a 15% cancellation rate. Unfortunately there was no deep dive into the data, so the figures are suspect. A few factors that weren't considered: A very significant percentage of Netflix programming is reality TV and cheap junk. This doesn't get cancelled because well, it's cheap. Many series don't get cancelled, they just aren't renewed. If Netflix tells the producers this is the last season, they're gonna rush the storyline to some kinda ending regardless of whether it was originally supposed to stretch several more seasons. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cheery_coffee@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Disgustoid@startrek.website 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Correct me if I'm wrong but if anyone kills the show, wouldn't it be Paramount? Netflix is just picking it up to stream on their service. I know people have their issues with Netflix but I'm just relieved it's not Peacock or some other service no one cares about. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website [S] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Netflix is just picking it up to stream on their service. Just as a TV network "cancels" a series by deciding not to order/air it, Netflix could do the same. Theoretically. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bel_Shamharoth@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) But it seems clear at this point that Paramount believes that it'll be able to make a return on its investment, so it's just a matter of where the show eventually lands, not if the new season gets created. Unless they do like WB did for Batgirl, and shitcan the entire thing permanently after production is complete, for a tax write-off. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website [S] 1 point 2 years ago To be clear, I was being completely hypothetical. It makes no sense for Netflix to cancel something they literally just bought. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nocturne213@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Sadly they gave Manifest a 3rd and 4th season. permalink fedilink source parent [+] samus12345@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ray@kbin.social 39 points 2 years ago (2 children) Not always. Sometimes they do it after the first season. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) only if there are gay people involved and being happy also i'm still angry and bitter about gypsy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HardlightCereal@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago And Lockwood permalink fedilink source parent [–] samus12345@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago RIP T_T permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) only if there are gay people involved and being happy also i'm still angry and bitter about gypsy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HardlightCereal@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago And Lockwood permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bonehead@kbin.social 16 points 2 years ago* (1 child) It's at least one more season than Paramount gave us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gregorum@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Technically, they’re the ones giving us the second season (as in they’re still paying for production), but they’re not the ones streaming it. I still don’t get why they’re doing this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website [S] 21 points 2 years ago (1 child) Paramount+, the streamer, cancelled it. CBS Studios, the producer, kept it going and found a new buyer. Two separate entities, even though they're both subsidiaries of the same parent company. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PutangInaMo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago That clears it up for me thanks permalink fedilink source parent [–] FelipeFelop@discuss.online 11 points 2 years ago Apparently it’s a tax write off. It’s risky though because a) Star Trek is no longer all in one place b) if it’s a hit then Netflix benefit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Technically, they’re the ones giving us the second season (as in they’re still paying for production), but they’re not the ones streaming it. I still don’t get why they’re doing this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website [S] 21 points 2 years ago (1 child) Paramount+, the streamer, cancelled it. CBS Studios, the producer, kept it going and found a new buyer. Two separate entities, even though they're both subsidiaries of the same parent company. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PutangInaMo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago That clears it up for me thanks permalink fedilink source parent [–] FelipeFelop@discuss.online 11 points 2 years ago Apparently it’s a tax write off. It’s risky though because a) Star Trek is no longer all in one place b) if it’s a hit then Netflix benefit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website [S] 21 points 2 years ago (1 child) Paramount+, the streamer, cancelled it. CBS Studios, the producer, kept it going and found a new buyer. Two separate entities, even though they're both subsidiaries of the same parent company. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PutangInaMo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago That clears it up for me thanks permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PutangInaMo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago That clears it up for me thanks permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FelipeFelop@discuss.online 11 points 2 years ago Apparently it’s a tax write off. It’s risky though because a) Star Trek is no longer all in one place b) if it’s a hit then Netflix benefit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] koreth@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago* (2 children) I don’t think Netflix actually cancels shows after two seasons any more often than other networks do. Somehow people got it into their heads that Netflix is far more cancel-happy than its competitors, but if you look at the numbers, traditional TV networks have had like a 50% cancellation rate for decades. Even TOS was cancelled after two seasons! If Netflix is more prone to cancelling shows at all, which I’m not convinced is even true, it can’t be by an enormous margin. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 14 points 2 years ago Actually there’s both metric evidence and statements by senior Netflix executives that a show has to do well in the first few weeks to be renewed. They’re also very committed to their drop it all at once, or at most in 2 parts per season. So it creates an environment where shows are rarely renewed unless they are top of the streaming charts. They may have a different decision criteria for kid and family shows though. permalink fedilink source parent [–] wahming@monyet.cc 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) There was an article a few weeks ago about how Netflix only has about a 15% cancellation rate. Unfortunately there was no deep dive into the data, so the figures are suspect. A few factors that weren't considered: A very significant percentage of Netflix programming is reality TV and cheap junk. This doesn't get cancelled because well, it's cheap. Many series don't get cancelled, they just aren't renewed. If Netflix tells the producers this is the last season, they're gonna rush the storyline to some kinda ending regardless of whether it was originally supposed to stretch several more seasons. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cheery_coffee@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 14 points 2 years ago Actually there’s both metric evidence and statements by senior Netflix executives that a show has to do well in the first few weeks to be renewed. They’re also very committed to their drop it all at once, or at most in 2 parts per season. So it creates an environment where shows are rarely renewed unless they are top of the streaming charts. They may have a different decision criteria for kid and family shows though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wahming@monyet.cc 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) There was an article a few weeks ago about how Netflix only has about a 15% cancellation rate. Unfortunately there was no deep dive into the data, so the figures are suspect. A few factors that weren't considered: A very significant percentage of Netflix programming is reality TV and cheap junk. This doesn't get cancelled because well, it's cheap. Many series don't get cancelled, they just aren't renewed. If Netflix tells the producers this is the last season, they're gonna rush the storyline to some kinda ending regardless of whether it was originally supposed to stretch several more seasons. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cheery_coffee@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] cheery_coffee@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Disgustoid@startrek.website 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Correct me if I'm wrong but if anyone kills the show, wouldn't it be Paramount? Netflix is just picking it up to stream on their service. I know people have their issues with Netflix but I'm just relieved it's not Peacock or some other service no one cares about. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website [S] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Netflix is just picking it up to stream on their service. Just as a TV network "cancels" a series by deciding not to order/air it, Netflix could do the same. Theoretically. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bel_Shamharoth@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) But it seems clear at this point that Paramount believes that it'll be able to make a return on its investment, so it's just a matter of where the show eventually lands, not if the new season gets created. Unless they do like WB did for Batgirl, and shitcan the entire thing permanently after production is complete, for a tax write-off. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website [S] 1 point 2 years ago To be clear, I was being completely hypothetical. It makes no sense for Netflix to cancel something they literally just bought. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website [S] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Netflix is just picking it up to stream on their service. Just as a TV network "cancels" a series by deciding not to order/air it, Netflix could do the same. Theoretically. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bel_Shamharoth@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) But it seems clear at this point that Paramount believes that it'll be able to make a return on its investment, so it's just a matter of where the show eventually lands, not if the new season gets created. Unless they do like WB did for Batgirl, and shitcan the entire thing permanently after production is complete, for a tax write-off. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website [S] 1 point 2 years ago To be clear, I was being completely hypothetical. It makes no sense for Netflix to cancel something they literally just bought. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bel_Shamharoth@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) But it seems clear at this point that Paramount believes that it'll be able to make a return on its investment, so it's just a matter of where the show eventually lands, not if the new season gets created. Unless they do like WB did for Batgirl, and shitcan the entire thing permanently after production is complete, for a tax write-off. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website [S] 1 point 2 years ago To be clear, I was being completely hypothetical. It makes no sense for Netflix to cancel something they literally just bought. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website [S] 1 point 2 years ago To be clear, I was being completely hypothetical. It makes no sense for Netflix to cancel something they literally just bought. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nocturne213@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Sadly they gave Manifest a 3rd and 4th season. permalink fedilink source parent