The death toll means around ten percent of the kibbutz's population was wiped out

The bodies of more than 100 people were discovered by volunteers in a single, small Israeli village Monday — including those of children — believed to have been killed by Hamas militants caught on camera.

The remains were discovered in Be'eri, or Bari, a kibbutz in southern Israel close to Gaza. It's one of the villages Hamas militants invaded on Saturday as they began their attack on the country.

"Today the volunteers entered Kibbutz Bari and it is impossible to explain in words the terrible sights - some were adults, some were children. These are horrors that cannot be grasped in the mind or soul," a spokesperson for Zaka search and rescue told IDF radio.

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[–] 40 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Entire settlements have been burned to the ground, the population murdered and kidnapped. This will end now, and it will end violently, there is no other way. Hamas is the governing body of the failed autonomous region of gaza and now they will pay the price for starting a war.

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  • [–] 72 points 2 years ago (24 children)

    Palestinians are going to suffer for what Hamas has started. And doubt very much that the common Palestinian wanted this. However, Israel's bombing of civilian infrastructures in Gaza is only going to perpetuate this violence.

    Nobody wins in this conflict. But, it would be a big win for the region if Nethnyahu and his party were removed and replaced with a peace seeking parliament that could turn things around.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago*

    It could well be the end of Palestine. I hardly see Netanyahoo stopping until Hamas is completely wiped out. Israel is on a warpath now, and any civilian human shields Hamas tries to put in the way are going to be destroyed as well because Israel DGAF now.

    In the end, Israel is going to commit more atrocities than Hamas in total. And by that point there may not be a Palestine left.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'm worried about how many civilian casualties there will be

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    from what i know about the Conflict and the current Israeli Government and Military, there will be massive retaliations against the Palestine Populations everywhere ensuring that no Wounds get mended, instead new ones get opened and this conflict continues on forever.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Every day for decades Israelis have been destroying Palestinian villages and killing or injuring innocent Palestinians.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2023/3/3/israeli-settler-attacks-against-palestinians-by-the-numbers

    How would you feel if Israelis burnt your toddler to death?

    https://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-palestinian-child-burnt-to-death-20150730-story.html

    Israel is the oppressor, they are the only side who has the power to end this situation and give the Palestinians back their freedom instead of murdering them in ghettos.

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  • [+] 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Not saying you're wrong, but Israel funded those fanatics so the Palestinian peace movement would lose steam. They wanted this to happen.

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  • [+] 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)
  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Why would I point the finger at Hamas? It wouldn't exist if Israel didn't support it while they were taking out people Israel wanted gone.

    I feel the same way about al queda, we created it so we don't get to complain.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Officially yes.

    Incorrect, netanyahu just didn't hide it very well, bro there's so many times where you have documented accounts of Israel letting Hamas attacks happen and then moving to stop them. It's exactly the same were just father apart.

    Hamas could have and would have been exterminated in the 90s if Israel thought it benefitted them very simple, they needed a existential enemy so they made one.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Hm. They actually seem to be kinda right. According to this article and this one, which source Israeli government officials from the time, they helped them since the 80's and basically helped make Hamas a thing. They did it to make the Muslim Brotherhood -based organization which ended up being Hamas and the more secular PLO fight each other, to basically drive a wedge in the Palestinians.

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  • [+] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)
  • Right?! I wouldn't have believed the other person either if it weren't for sources from pretty reputable news organizations. And it's interesting that basically the same mistakes were made with these two different groups (Israel and Hamas, the US and Al-Queda). I bet it's probably been done more in South America or Africa or something.

    EDIT: But for others reading, no, it doesn't make Hamas (or Al-Queda) the good guys. It just means there are multiple bad guys all around. But you can't make me feel bad about being distraught from Hamas killing civilians. There were babies and other innocents in there who never did anything wrong to Palestinians, and rape is a war crime that I can never just look over.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Because they need a predictable boogieman.

    What theory, it's objective fact.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Israel is the oppressor

    I don't disagree with this line, but they are also the victim. The origins of the nationalist movement for a Jewish state came in light of Russian pogroms killing Jews -- a Jewish scholar noted that the only way they could have peace, freedom, and respect seemed to be having a nation of their own.

    Israel has absolutely been the oppressor for a lot of the country's history, but it takes some fucking gall to say Israel is the oppressor after Hamas killed and kidnapped civilians. Your logic in fact would suggest Israel has the moral high ground now. The Hamas attack has killed a ton of innocent people, including children.

    Tell me, does Hamas have the right to kill Israeli children because the Israeli government killed Palestinian children? If so, does Israel have the right if we reverse the situation?

    What the Israeli government has done to Palestinians is a war crime and an atrocity. That does not mean Israel is the villain and Hamas is the good guy. The opposite isn't true either. You're grossly simplifying the conflict and not trying to understand its roots.

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