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TikTok video showing DoorDash driver cursing at customer over 25% tip sparks online debate over tipping culture in the U.S. (www.nbcnews.com)
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What's an acceptable tip for a driver who delivers a $20 pizza?

A TikTok video purporting to show a DoorDash delivery driver in Texas swearing at a customer over the $5 tip she gave him has gone viral, sparking fresh online debate over tipping culture in the U.S.

"I just want to say it's a nice house for a $5 tip," the driver can be heard saying as he walks away from a home in the door camera video posted to TikTok earlier this week by a user under the name Lacey Purciful.

"You're welcome!" the resident says, appearing surprised by the remark. "F*** you," the driver responds before walking away.

A spokesperson for DoorDash said a delivery driver had been removed from their platform in connection with the incident.

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[–] 5 points 3 years ago (2 children)

I get the impulse, for sure. It's upsetting, you want revenge. But would you stop to consider whether the injury to your feelings is really worth throwing someone out of work? I mean, if it's some tax-avoiding, worker-exploiting, obscenely highly paid executive, go for it. Bury them if you get the chance. But punishing a very low wage gig worker to make yourself feel better, and tightening the iron grip of the afore-mentioned executives by snitching on them? Be the better person and feel good about it.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    Did you watch the video?

    It wasn't like he muttered it under his breath. He was a total ass directly to his customer's face because they had a nice house and didn't tip to his satisfaction.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    I did watch the video. He was having a bad day. And the wealthy person he took it out on took it upon themselves to dismantle his life. That's the whole point of being wealthy, after all. You don't have to give a shit about anyone but yourself. And there will be ordinary Joes cheering you on because this world is absolutely fucked.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Some people said Amy Cooper (Central Park "Karen") was having a bad day - I found it telling that the implication being made is that they believe everyone has highly racist tendencies barely contained and all it takes is a case of the Monday's to lie and attempt to sic the police on a person of the wrong complexion. (projection?)

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    You're going to have to explain why an entitled rich woman abusing her power is equivalent to the driver here.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Both had someone brushing it off as “a bad day”

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    And yet the more obvious analogy is between the two Karens in these stories, no?

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago

    And yet the more obvious analogy is between the two Karens in these stories, no?

    No, full stop. You're trying to compare someone being racist with someone who didn't give a tip big enough for the delivery driver. Reporting someone for verbally abusing you isn't being a Karen, doing something like yelling "fuck you" at a customer because they didn't give you enough extra money is being a Karen.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    Central park lady committed a crime ho for which she was not prosecuted.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    And? I’m just pointing out people “having a bad day” to excuse poor behavior

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    I don't see how these stories are being mixed together.

    He said fuck you which is a dick move

    She made a false police report which is a crime.

    Putting these two together is making a false equivalency

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    I’m not comparing the acts at all which are clearly very different in severity, I’m highlighting that some people tried to excuse the behavior of both as merely having “a bad day” while I am of the opinion these are clear signs of who they are as a person rather than a “normal” (I know that’s subjective) person simply having “a bad day” - it was said in one of the above comments I replied to earlier which is why my comments all hinge on the “bad day” excuse.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Oh no, it's the consequences of his own actions.

    I'm all for worker's rights and solidarity among the working class. That doesn't mean I give people carte blanche to be dicks. In the end, I'm paying for a service, and that service doesn't include a man child being upset at my tip.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    It is a wholly disproportionate consequence. Chasing him down and yelling at him in the street might have been a reasonable course of action. Chasing him down and asking him how badly the gig employer was treating him to make him feel this way would be much better. Dismantling his livelihood just because you have so much power it doesn't even occur to you to avoid abusing it, when his poverty is what makes your own wealth possible, is vicious entitlement.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    You're looking too far into this, my guy. This has nothing to with wealth and power and everything to do with expecting a minimum level of politeness from people I'm paying to provide me with a service. I've had bad days at work, and I've never lashed out at a customer like he has.

    The only entitled person in this exchange is the delivery driver who felt that a 20% tip wasn't enough.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (2 children)

    It was 25%. But a 25% tip on a $20 order really isn't that impressive. The driver does much the same amount of work as for a $100 order.

    Income inequality does make it possible to hire gig-workers to run increasingly trivial errands for us, and the structures that enable that do make it possible to treat those gig-workers like shit. That does not mean you should. If you're going to order small, you should tip big and I don't think that is remotely controversial?

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  • [–] 14 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    No one here treated the gig worker like shit. He got a higher than average tip, he wasn't satisfied with it, lashed out at someone who did nothing wrong, and then he had to face the consequences of his own actions. It doesn't matter if he was having a bad day, it doesn't matter what happened before this.

    If you’re going to order small, you should tip big and I don’t think that is remotely controversial?

    I would fucking hope this is controversial. The very idea of tipping before I get my food is already ridiculous, and I've had to contact doordash multiple times to lower or remove my tip when I've received food in unacceptable conditions (as if the driver had tossed the bag around in his car). There is no way in hell I'm going to be paying over a quarter the price of my food on delivery.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    Gotta keep the servants in line. Got it.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Everyone who makes more money than me is the wealthy and the problem: a child's guide to class consciousness.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Are you trying to pretend the power relations were in favour of the driver here?

    Get a grip.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    You hyperfocus on the fact that the homeowner likely makes more money than the driver, therefore absolving the driver of any and all responsibility. Take a step back, maybe pull your head just a little bit out of your own ass, and realize that all the driver had to do to not get fired is literally just not swear at the fucking customer

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    That does not mean you should. If you’re going to order small, you should tip big and I don’t think that is remotely controversial?

    I don't see why that wouldn't be controversial. You're thinking of just wealthy people and not middle class. I would be losing money every month paying premium for small orders. I know this because i've done this for months (was very sick for awhile).

    And since I still believe in tipping people because I understand that they're not being paid even minimum wage, I opted to just not order at all now.

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