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Fairphone 4—the repairable, sustainable smartphone—is coming to the US (arstechnica.com)
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[–] 29 points 3 years ago (2 children)

That's a step in the right direction, hopefully in the future phones will be more like computers, where you can buy parts and build your own. At least that'd be my dream.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Well not all computers can be upgraded unfortunately. Looking at you MacBooks with SSDs welded to the motherboard…

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Well, that's not a PC, it's a Mac :P

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  • [–] 14 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    There aren't lots of compact devices that are upgradable, even on windows. Most use soldered ram and flash storage.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Then maybe it's time we changed that!

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  • [–] 11 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    It's already happening:

    https://frame.work/

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    Framework devices are cool as heck, but damn are they expensive...

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Maybe if you spec them out.

    But it's like $1000 for the midrange model with the latest hardware, which is in line with the competition.

    And the first upgrade you do will end up saving money, since you won't have to replace the whole laptop.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago

    When last I looked into them, if you compared a barebones Framework laptop (i.e. without storage/RAM/OS/charger) to a big brand name laptop with the same/similar processor but also a SSD/RAM/OS/charger & various IO ports (e.g. usb-c/HDMI/ethernet/etc.), the Framework laptop was still more expensive...

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    Agree with the upgrade path, but I can't justify paying 1k for a midrange model (of any brand). I personally go to the used market, and spend up to 500€ for a ~2 year old machine (which was >1k new).

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago

    That's definitely the smart way to buy laptops.

    I just wanted to remind people that Framework's pricing is competitive in the segment they are targeting.

    Personally I'm with you, buying a 1-2 year old premium machine can save up to 75% off the new retail price, while still getting most of the latest features.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Years ago google was looking at doing a modular phone. It was basically a frame with modules on the back that contained the battery, storage, cameras, and even the processor. The screen was even replaceable in a similar way. I really want someone to do another project ara.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    I remember that, I liked the idea except for Google being involved. The dream would be a fully modular phone running Linux. I don't ever see that becoming a reality, but hey.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    What do you mean by "running Linux"? Android is Linux.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    By that logic MacOS is FreeBSD. Android has a modified Linux kernel, doesn't run GNU software or basically any Linux applications natively and it has a bunch of Google proprietary crap on top of it, when I mean "running Linux" I mean running a FOSS GNU/Linux distro.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    There's Android forks out there that avoid Google's crap. LineageOS and GrapheneOS come to mind. Though I'm less familiar with all that.

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