▲ 2311 ▼ literally no clue (media.infosec.exchange) submitted 2 years ago by Masimatutu@lemm.ee to c/memes@lemmy.ml 161 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 years ago (4 children) House cats are making it worse too Both things are true permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] MoodyRaincloud@feddit.nl -7 points 2 years ago (3 children) Housecats were actually keeping the bird population healthy for decades by eliminating the weak. Of course now that habitat destruction and toxins made entire populations weak it is a problem. But removing housecats to solve it is akin to drinking out of paper straws to solve plastic pollution. It helps, but it doesn't do anything substantial. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] kbotc@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago Why would you say that? Hawks and owls were the “natural” predator of North American song birds and I’ve seen plenty of raptors in my large US city. Not like bobcats are suffering population-wise in urban areas. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FireTower@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Outside cat / feral cats have had massive negative impacts on bird and small mammal populations. Particularly in areas where they fill an ecological niche that the wildlife hasn't adapted to due to none of the local fauna being in that niche. Hawaii and Australia in particular have this problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MoodyRaincloud@feddit.nl -3 points 2 years ago Those are indeed special situations where cats are basically an invasive species. Here in Europe the correlation between cats and bird population is not so strong. While destruction of habitat and the crash in insect numbers are the big culprits. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] MoodyRaincloud@feddit.nl -7 points 2 years ago (3 children) Housecats were actually keeping the bird population healthy for decades by eliminating the weak. Of course now that habitat destruction and toxins made entire populations weak it is a problem. But removing housecats to solve it is akin to drinking out of paper straws to solve plastic pollution. It helps, but it doesn't do anything substantial. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] kbotc@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago Why would you say that? Hawks and owls were the “natural” predator of North American song birds and I’ve seen plenty of raptors in my large US city. Not like bobcats are suffering population-wise in urban areas. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FireTower@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Outside cat / feral cats have had massive negative impacts on bird and small mammal populations. Particularly in areas where they fill an ecological niche that the wildlife hasn't adapted to due to none of the local fauna being in that niche. Hawaii and Australia in particular have this problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MoodyRaincloud@feddit.nl -3 points 2 years ago Those are indeed special situations where cats are basically an invasive species. Here in Europe the correlation between cats and bird population is not so strong. While destruction of habitat and the crash in insect numbers are the big culprits. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kbotc@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago Why would you say that? Hawks and owls were the “natural” predator of North American song birds and I’ve seen plenty of raptors in my large US city. Not like bobcats are suffering population-wise in urban areas. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FireTower@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Outside cat / feral cats have had massive negative impacts on bird and small mammal populations. Particularly in areas where they fill an ecological niche that the wildlife hasn't adapted to due to none of the local fauna being in that niche. Hawaii and Australia in particular have this problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MoodyRaincloud@feddit.nl -3 points 2 years ago Those are indeed special situations where cats are basically an invasive species. Here in Europe the correlation between cats and bird population is not so strong. While destruction of habitat and the crash in insect numbers are the big culprits. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MoodyRaincloud@feddit.nl -3 points 2 years ago Those are indeed special situations where cats are basically an invasive species. Here in Europe the correlation between cats and bird population is not so strong. While destruction of habitat and the crash in insect numbers are the big culprits. permalink fedilink source parent