▲ 306 ▼ Israel-Palestine escalation live: Strikes hit Gaza after Hamas offensive (www.aljazeera.com) submitted 2 years ago by zephyreks@lemmy.ml [M] to c/worldnews@lemmy.ml 162 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] dsemy@lemm.ee -12 points 2 years ago (23 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 23 child comments replies: [–] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 60 points 2 years ago (17 children) Israel existing involves the indiscriminate massacre of Palestinians. You only care when they fight back. Eat shit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [+] dsemy@lemm.ee -11 points 2 years ago (16 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] Shinji_Ikari@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago (3 children) Where did they get those homes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] dsemy@lemm.ee -8 points 2 years ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kuori@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago your wagers are as worthless as you are. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Shinji_Ikari@hexbear.net 26 points 2 years ago Do you have any actual criteria for that stat? I don't either but I know I've seen enough videos of families removed at gun point from their homes, enough for a few lifetimes. Hell, the attacks on Al Asqa is more than enough proof that they're not simply building homes on land they own, but are acting as a violent invading force. permalink fedilink source parent [–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago* (6 children) but in the vast majority of cases Israeli operations don’t intend to harm civilians. That is categorically untrue. What do you think the intention of bombing the Gaza strip is? The population density there is too high for precision airstrikes to be a possibility. What do you think Israeli settlers stealing the homes of Palestinians is? Israel has bombed the offices of journalists and killed them before. How is that not intending to harm civilians. Just because Israel uses the cloak of plausible deniability and fancy language to say that they don't target civilians, it doesn't make it true. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] dsemy@lemm.ee -4 points 2 years ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Redbolshevik2@hexbear.net 36 points 2 years ago They enjoy killing civilians because they view all Palestinians as subhumans and threats. permalink fedilink source parent [–] anaesidemus@hexbear.net 36 points 2 years ago (1 child) I know these people, I know they don’t target civilians. no you don't permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Grimble@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago lmao he sounds like a guy getting interrogated for a crime he helped a friend cover up. Just lying on easy mode. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 32 points 2 years ago "the Palestinian population has been increasing for decades." Hasbara talking point detected. permalink fedilink source parent [+] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago* but in the vast majority of cases Israeli operations don’t intend to harm civilians. You mean like when apartment towers, hospitals, schools, water treatment plants, media offices, etc. in the Gaza Strip get leveled? Also, what are the Israeli secret service doing in the Oliver Tambo Airport all the way in Johannesburg for the past 15 years? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kuori@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago Do you support terrorists roaming the streets and killing families in their homes? no, but you do, fascist piece of shit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago Do you support terrorists roaming the streets and killing families in their homes? No, thats's why I'm anti-Isreal permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago Yeah I guess 5,000+ Palestinians just happened to be involved in wacky Looney Toons accidents near Israeli military operations. permalink fedilink source parent [–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago the vast majority of cases Israeli operations don’t intend to harm civilians. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Grimble@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago And it's still happening, fully out of your reach. Cry like the bitch you are permalink fedilink source parent [–] rolandtb303@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (3 children) Yet you guys freak out when this argument is used on Ukraine. Both are bullshit arguments btw. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] dsemy@lemm.ee -7 points 2 years ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rolandtb303@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago If you take a look at Israeli and Russian media, you'll find out that they pretty use the same methods of propaganda (and sure some things are different, but the general census is the same). Dehumanizing the enemy, and lumping all of its people together, meanwhile trying to justify their actions with the victim approach. "oh please help i'm getting attacked, i have done nothing wrong, those guys over there are terrorists/nazis, we're only liberating it from the horrible terrorists/nazis who keep bombing this place! we're doing this for peace!" Also, why do you think the "terrorists" are doing this? Surely it wouldn't be because of the illegal occupation of Palestine that Israel has been doing since 1948, with the Nakba (where various militant groups such as Irgun and Lehi did a massacre on Palestinian people, the looting of Palestinian homes, and evasion tactics such as planting trees to hide the fact that this was once Palestinian land being a huge part of it). IDF also play a major role in the occupation, as they very much want their presence known. IDF raid houses for the purpose of taking picture of all the family members in the house to use as data for BlueWolf (which is basically a profile of Palestinians so that Israel's surveillance cameras can easily recognize their faces). They can also do a "house search" where they knock everything over and then come up empty-handed because they don't know what they're searching for. They can also use the house that they just raided as a sort of military base. Their most recent crime is the killing of a journalist, Shireen Abu Akleh. They then lied through their teeth while Israeli bots posted misinformation say that "the terrorists fired on her", which was quickly debunked. They call that a "PR blitz". Also, for them, bombing hospitals (such as the al-Shifa hospital), schools, media towers (Al-Jalaa building being one example), apartment buildings (such as Hamadi tower), and if that isn't enough, the al-Shati refugee camp is known as "mowing the lawn". So of course the Palestinians have every right to fight back, just like the Ukrainians do. I don't agree with every method (just as i don't agree with every method the Ukrainians use),. That being said, they are being occupied by a country who's raiding and demolishing homes, doing random assassinations, and to top it all off, throwing tear gas into mosques and hospitals because that's what the most moral army in the world does. No surprise that they fight back. They aren't just going to surrender their land to the occupiers. permalink fedilink source parent [–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago I'm sorry for you and for your girlfriend's family. I hope and pray they aren't hurt ... was going to write more but my heart breaks for them and for others as I write this. :'( I'm sorry that doesn't mean much coming from a randomer across the internet. I try to remember the situation here is more complex than the parts I know about and read about, but having heard of what the insurgents are doing to civilians, and the glee at killing and degradation and massacre, I'm disgusted and sickened. And disgusted at people gleefully supporting such murder. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 60 points 2 years ago (17 children) Israel existing involves the indiscriminate massacre of Palestinians. You only care when they fight back. Eat shit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [+] dsemy@lemm.ee -11 points 2 years ago (16 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] Shinji_Ikari@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago (3 children) Where did they get those homes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] dsemy@lemm.ee -8 points 2 years ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kuori@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago your wagers are as worthless as you are. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Shinji_Ikari@hexbear.net 26 points 2 years ago Do you have any actual criteria for that stat? I don't either but I know I've seen enough videos of families removed at gun point from their homes, enough for a few lifetimes. Hell, the attacks on Al Asqa is more than enough proof that they're not simply building homes on land they own, but are acting as a violent invading force. permalink fedilink source parent [–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago* (6 children) but in the vast majority of cases Israeli operations don’t intend to harm civilians. That is categorically untrue. What do you think the intention of bombing the Gaza strip is? The population density there is too high for precision airstrikes to be a possibility. What do you think Israeli settlers stealing the homes of Palestinians is? Israel has bombed the offices of journalists and killed them before. How is that not intending to harm civilians. Just because Israel uses the cloak of plausible deniability and fancy language to say that they don't target civilians, it doesn't make it true. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] dsemy@lemm.ee -4 points 2 years ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Redbolshevik2@hexbear.net 36 points 2 years ago They enjoy killing civilians because they view all Palestinians as subhumans and threats. permalink fedilink source parent [–] anaesidemus@hexbear.net 36 points 2 years ago (1 child) I know these people, I know they don’t target civilians. no you don't permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Grimble@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago lmao he sounds like a guy getting interrogated for a crime he helped a friend cover up. Just lying on easy mode. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 32 points 2 years ago "the Palestinian population has been increasing for decades." Hasbara talking point detected. permalink fedilink source parent [+] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago* but in the vast majority of cases Israeli operations don’t intend to harm civilians. You mean like when apartment towers, hospitals, schools, water treatment plants, media offices, etc. in the Gaza Strip get leveled? Also, what are the Israeli secret service doing in the Oliver Tambo Airport all the way in Johannesburg for the past 15 years? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kuori@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago Do you support terrorists roaming the streets and killing families in their homes? no, but you do, fascist piece of shit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago Do you support terrorists roaming the streets and killing families in their homes? No, thats's why I'm anti-Isreal permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago Yeah I guess 5,000+ Palestinians just happened to be involved in wacky Looney Toons accidents near Israeli military operations. permalink fedilink source parent [–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago the vast majority of cases Israeli operations don’t intend to harm civilians. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] dsemy@lemm.ee -11 points 2 years ago (16 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] Shinji_Ikari@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago (3 children) Where did they get those homes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] dsemy@lemm.ee -8 points 2 years ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kuori@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago your wagers are as worthless as you are. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Shinji_Ikari@hexbear.net 26 points 2 years ago Do you have any actual criteria for that stat? I don't either but I know I've seen enough videos of families removed at gun point from their homes, enough for a few lifetimes. Hell, the attacks on Al Asqa is more than enough proof that they're not simply building homes on land they own, but are acting as a violent invading force. permalink fedilink source parent [–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago* (6 children) but in the vast majority of cases Israeli operations don’t intend to harm civilians. That is categorically untrue. What do you think the intention of bombing the Gaza strip is? The population density there is too high for precision airstrikes to be a possibility. What do you think Israeli settlers stealing the homes of Palestinians is? Israel has bombed the offices of journalists and killed them before. How is that not intending to harm civilians. Just because Israel uses the cloak of plausible deniability and fancy language to say that they don't target civilians, it doesn't make it true. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] dsemy@lemm.ee -4 points 2 years ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Redbolshevik2@hexbear.net 36 points 2 years ago They enjoy killing civilians because they view all Palestinians as subhumans and threats. permalink fedilink source parent [–] anaesidemus@hexbear.net 36 points 2 years ago (1 child) I know these people, I know they don’t target civilians. no you don't permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Grimble@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago lmao he sounds like a guy getting interrogated for a crime he helped a friend cover up. Just lying on easy mode. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 32 points 2 years ago "the Palestinian population has been increasing for decades." Hasbara talking point detected. permalink fedilink source parent [+] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago* but in the vast majority of cases Israeli operations don’t intend to harm civilians. You mean like when apartment towers, hospitals, schools, water treatment plants, media offices, etc. in the Gaza Strip get leveled? Also, what are the Israeli secret service doing in the Oliver Tambo Airport all the way in Johannesburg for the past 15 years? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kuori@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago Do you support terrorists roaming the streets and killing families in their homes? no, but you do, fascist piece of shit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago Do you support terrorists roaming the streets and killing families in their homes? No, thats's why I'm anti-Isreal permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago Yeah I guess 5,000+ Palestinians just happened to be involved in wacky Looney Toons accidents near Israeli military operations. permalink fedilink source parent [–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago the vast majority of cases Israeli operations don’t intend to harm civilians. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Shinji_Ikari@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago (3 children) Where did they get those homes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] dsemy@lemm.ee -8 points 2 years ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kuori@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago your wagers are as worthless as you are. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Shinji_Ikari@hexbear.net 26 points 2 years ago Do you have any actual criteria for that stat? I don't either but I know I've seen enough videos of families removed at gun point from their homes, enough for a few lifetimes. Hell, the attacks on Al Asqa is more than enough proof that they're not simply building homes on land they own, but are acting as a violent invading force. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] dsemy@lemm.ee -8 points 2 years ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kuori@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago your wagers are as worthless as you are. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Shinji_Ikari@hexbear.net 26 points 2 years ago Do you have any actual criteria for that stat? I don't either but I know I've seen enough videos of families removed at gun point from their homes, enough for a few lifetimes. Hell, the attacks on Al Asqa is more than enough proof that they're not simply building homes on land they own, but are acting as a violent invading force. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago your wagers are as worthless as you are. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Shinji_Ikari@hexbear.net 26 points 2 years ago Do you have any actual criteria for that stat? I don't either but I know I've seen enough videos of families removed at gun point from their homes, enough for a few lifetimes. Hell, the attacks on Al Asqa is more than enough proof that they're not simply building homes on land they own, but are acting as a violent invading force. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago* (6 children) but in the vast majority of cases Israeli operations don’t intend to harm civilians. That is categorically untrue. What do you think the intention of bombing the Gaza strip is? The population density there is too high for precision airstrikes to be a possibility. What do you think Israeli settlers stealing the homes of Palestinians is? Israel has bombed the offices of journalists and killed them before. How is that not intending to harm civilians. Just because Israel uses the cloak of plausible deniability and fancy language to say that they don't target civilians, it doesn't make it true. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] dsemy@lemm.ee -4 points 2 years ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Redbolshevik2@hexbear.net 36 points 2 years ago They enjoy killing civilians because they view all Palestinians as subhumans and threats. permalink fedilink source parent [–] anaesidemus@hexbear.net 36 points 2 years ago (1 child) I know these people, I know they don’t target civilians. no you don't permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Grimble@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago lmao he sounds like a guy getting interrogated for a crime he helped a friend cover up. Just lying on easy mode. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 32 points 2 years ago "the Palestinian population has been increasing for decades." Hasbara talking point detected. permalink fedilink source parent [+] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] dsemy@lemm.ee -4 points 2 years ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Redbolshevik2@hexbear.net 36 points 2 years ago They enjoy killing civilians because they view all Palestinians as subhumans and threats. permalink fedilink source parent [–] anaesidemus@hexbear.net 36 points 2 years ago (1 child) I know these people, I know they don’t target civilians. no you don't permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Grimble@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago lmao he sounds like a guy getting interrogated for a crime he helped a friend cover up. Just lying on easy mode. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 32 points 2 years ago "the Palestinian population has been increasing for decades." Hasbara talking point detected. permalink fedilink source parent [+] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Redbolshevik2@hexbear.net 36 points 2 years ago They enjoy killing civilians because they view all Palestinians as subhumans and threats. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anaesidemus@hexbear.net 36 points 2 years ago (1 child) I know these people, I know they don’t target civilians. no you don't permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Grimble@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago lmao he sounds like a guy getting interrogated for a crime he helped a friend cover up. Just lying on easy mode. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Grimble@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago lmao he sounds like a guy getting interrogated for a crime he helped a friend cover up. Just lying on easy mode. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 32 points 2 years ago "the Palestinian population has been increasing for decades." Hasbara talking point detected. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago* but in the vast majority of cases Israeli operations don’t intend to harm civilians. You mean like when apartment towers, hospitals, schools, water treatment plants, media offices, etc. in the Gaza Strip get leveled? Also, what are the Israeli secret service doing in the Oliver Tambo Airport all the way in Johannesburg for the past 15 years? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago Do you support terrorists roaming the streets and killing families in their homes? no, but you do, fascist piece of shit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago Do you support terrorists roaming the streets and killing families in their homes? No, thats's why I'm anti-Isreal permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago Yeah I guess 5,000+ Palestinians just happened to be involved in wacky Looney Toons accidents near Israeli military operations. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago the vast majority of cases Israeli operations don’t intend to harm civilians. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Grimble@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago And it's still happening, fully out of your reach. Cry like the bitch you are permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rolandtb303@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (3 children) Yet you guys freak out when this argument is used on Ukraine. Both are bullshit arguments btw. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] dsemy@lemm.ee -7 points 2 years ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rolandtb303@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago If you take a look at Israeli and Russian media, you'll find out that they pretty use the same methods of propaganda (and sure some things are different, but the general census is the same). Dehumanizing the enemy, and lumping all of its people together, meanwhile trying to justify their actions with the victim approach. "oh please help i'm getting attacked, i have done nothing wrong, those guys over there are terrorists/nazis, we're only liberating it from the horrible terrorists/nazis who keep bombing this place! we're doing this for peace!" Also, why do you think the "terrorists" are doing this? Surely it wouldn't be because of the illegal occupation of Palestine that Israel has been doing since 1948, with the Nakba (where various militant groups such as Irgun and Lehi did a massacre on Palestinian people, the looting of Palestinian homes, and evasion tactics such as planting trees to hide the fact that this was once Palestinian land being a huge part of it). IDF also play a major role in the occupation, as they very much want their presence known. IDF raid houses for the purpose of taking picture of all the family members in the house to use as data for BlueWolf (which is basically a profile of Palestinians so that Israel's surveillance cameras can easily recognize their faces). They can also do a "house search" where they knock everything over and then come up empty-handed because they don't know what they're searching for. They can also use the house that they just raided as a sort of military base. Their most recent crime is the killing of a journalist, Shireen Abu Akleh. They then lied through their teeth while Israeli bots posted misinformation say that "the terrorists fired on her", which was quickly debunked. They call that a "PR blitz". Also, for them, bombing hospitals (such as the al-Shifa hospital), schools, media towers (Al-Jalaa building being one example), apartment buildings (such as Hamadi tower), and if that isn't enough, the al-Shati refugee camp is known as "mowing the lawn". So of course the Palestinians have every right to fight back, just like the Ukrainians do. I don't agree with every method (just as i don't agree with every method the Ukrainians use),. That being said, they are being occupied by a country who's raiding and demolishing homes, doing random assassinations, and to top it all off, throwing tear gas into mosques and hospitals because that's what the most moral army in the world does. No surprise that they fight back. They aren't just going to surrender their land to the occupiers. permalink fedilink source parent [–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago I'm sorry for you and for your girlfriend's family. I hope and pray they aren't hurt ... was going to write more but my heart breaks for them and for others as I write this. :'( I'm sorry that doesn't mean much coming from a randomer across the internet. I try to remember the situation here is more complex than the parts I know about and read about, but having heard of what the insurgents are doing to civilians, and the glee at killing and degradation and massacre, I'm disgusted and sickened. And disgusted at people gleefully supporting such murder. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] dsemy@lemm.ee -7 points 2 years ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rolandtb303@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago If you take a look at Israeli and Russian media, you'll find out that they pretty use the same methods of propaganda (and sure some things are different, but the general census is the same). Dehumanizing the enemy, and lumping all of its people together, meanwhile trying to justify their actions with the victim approach. "oh please help i'm getting attacked, i have done nothing wrong, those guys over there are terrorists/nazis, we're only liberating it from the horrible terrorists/nazis who keep bombing this place! we're doing this for peace!" Also, why do you think the "terrorists" are doing this? Surely it wouldn't be because of the illegal occupation of Palestine that Israel has been doing since 1948, with the Nakba (where various militant groups such as Irgun and Lehi did a massacre on Palestinian people, the looting of Palestinian homes, and evasion tactics such as planting trees to hide the fact that this was once Palestinian land being a huge part of it). IDF also play a major role in the occupation, as they very much want their presence known. IDF raid houses for the purpose of taking picture of all the family members in the house to use as data for BlueWolf (which is basically a profile of Palestinians so that Israel's surveillance cameras can easily recognize their faces). They can also do a "house search" where they knock everything over and then come up empty-handed because they don't know what they're searching for. They can also use the house that they just raided as a sort of military base. Their most recent crime is the killing of a journalist, Shireen Abu Akleh. They then lied through their teeth while Israeli bots posted misinformation say that "the terrorists fired on her", which was quickly debunked. They call that a "PR blitz". Also, for them, bombing hospitals (such as the al-Shifa hospital), schools, media towers (Al-Jalaa building being one example), apartment buildings (such as Hamadi tower), and if that isn't enough, the al-Shati refugee camp is known as "mowing the lawn". So of course the Palestinians have every right to fight back, just like the Ukrainians do. I don't agree with every method (just as i don't agree with every method the Ukrainians use),. That being said, they are being occupied by a country who's raiding and demolishing homes, doing random assassinations, and to top it all off, throwing tear gas into mosques and hospitals because that's what the most moral army in the world does. No surprise that they fight back. They aren't just going to surrender their land to the occupiers. permalink fedilink source parent [–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago I'm sorry for you and for your girlfriend's family. I hope and pray they aren't hurt ... was going to write more but my heart breaks for them and for others as I write this. :'( I'm sorry that doesn't mean much coming from a randomer across the internet. I try to remember the situation here is more complex than the parts I know about and read about, but having heard of what the insurgents are doing to civilians, and the glee at killing and degradation and massacre, I'm disgusted and sickened. And disgusted at people gleefully supporting such murder. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rolandtb303@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago If you take a look at Israeli and Russian media, you'll find out that they pretty use the same methods of propaganda (and sure some things are different, but the general census is the same). Dehumanizing the enemy, and lumping all of its people together, meanwhile trying to justify their actions with the victim approach. "oh please help i'm getting attacked, i have done nothing wrong, those guys over there are terrorists/nazis, we're only liberating it from the horrible terrorists/nazis who keep bombing this place! we're doing this for peace!" Also, why do you think the "terrorists" are doing this? Surely it wouldn't be because of the illegal occupation of Palestine that Israel has been doing since 1948, with the Nakba (where various militant groups such as Irgun and Lehi did a massacre on Palestinian people, the looting of Palestinian homes, and evasion tactics such as planting trees to hide the fact that this was once Palestinian land being a huge part of it). IDF also play a major role in the occupation, as they very much want their presence known. IDF raid houses for the purpose of taking picture of all the family members in the house to use as data for BlueWolf (which is basically a profile of Palestinians so that Israel's surveillance cameras can easily recognize their faces). They can also do a "house search" where they knock everything over and then come up empty-handed because they don't know what they're searching for. They can also use the house that they just raided as a sort of military base. Their most recent crime is the killing of a journalist, Shireen Abu Akleh. They then lied through their teeth while Israeli bots posted misinformation say that "the terrorists fired on her", which was quickly debunked. They call that a "PR blitz". Also, for them, bombing hospitals (such as the al-Shifa hospital), schools, media towers (Al-Jalaa building being one example), apartment buildings (such as Hamadi tower), and if that isn't enough, the al-Shati refugee camp is known as "mowing the lawn". So of course the Palestinians have every right to fight back, just like the Ukrainians do. I don't agree with every method (just as i don't agree with every method the Ukrainians use),. That being said, they are being occupied by a country who's raiding and demolishing homes, doing random assassinations, and to top it all off, throwing tear gas into mosques and hospitals because that's what the most moral army in the world does. No surprise that they fight back. They aren't just going to surrender their land to the occupiers. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago I'm sorry for you and for your girlfriend's family. I hope and pray they aren't hurt ... was going to write more but my heart breaks for them and for others as I write this. :'( I'm sorry that doesn't mean much coming from a randomer across the internet. I try to remember the situation here is more complex than the parts I know about and read about, but having heard of what the insurgents are doing to civilians, and the glee at killing and degradation and massacre, I'm disgusted and sickened. And disgusted at people gleefully supporting such murder. permalink fedilink source parent