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[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 49 points 2 years ago (17 children) Wait, smart devices might not be secure?! I'm shocked! permalink fedilink source hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago (14 children) Are non smart TVs even still a thing nowadays? I don't own or watch any TV so I honestly don't know how the market currently looks like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] TenderfootGungi@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (4 children) Yes. They are sold for commercial use, e.g., McD’s menu, and are quite pricey. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] thegreekgeek@midwest.social 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think you meant to say not subsidized by ad tracking lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Yes, not subsidized...and therefore pricy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] wjrii@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) Depends on your definition of "quite pricey." There's no equivalent of a $250 50" Insignia FireTV, but I've seen Samsung signage displays on Amazon for about a $75-$100 premium over their comparable Smart TVs. They also don't come with a stand, so if you weren't already buying a VESA mount you'll need to add another $40-80. There is a significant premium, but it's not necessarily orders of magnitude. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] grayman@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago And they're made better... To be on 24x7. So you're also paying for a better quality display. That's worth paying for too. permalink fedilink source parent [–] guyrocket@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago (4 children) Apparently "smartness" has not invaded projectors...per a comment I read here on kbin a while back from a projector owner. This really encourages me to buy one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Alienator@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) It did though, last time I went to a tech store, there was a samsung smart projector that had all the capabilities of a smart tv permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] guyrocket@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I hope it is not ubiquitous. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Alienator@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Not yet, but it is definitely heading that direction permalink fedilink source parent [–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 5 points 2 years ago Although a projector would need you to have a home with a whole spare wall. And would force you to dim the lights all the time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chozo@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago They're harder to find, for sure. Especially if you want a large screen. When I was shopping around a few years ago, the only 65" TV I could find without smart features was a Sceptre, which is Walmart's electronics brand. Speakers so bad that I had to buy a sound bar, and the display isn't that great, but it gets the job done and I don't need to worry about it being an attack vector. permalink fedilink source parent [–] alignedchaos@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago* They get called “monitors” a lot (depending whether you need them to pick up cable/airwaves of course) permalink fedilink source parent [–] BigT54@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Not really but you can always get a "smart" tv and never connect it to the Internet. If you want to stream just use an external device you trust like a PC permalink fedilink source parent [–] lemann@lemmy.one 1 point 2 years ago* Yepp - hop on Ebay or some surplus auction site, and search for commercial/signage displays. Don't bother buying new unless you have the money for it IMO, they are expensive unless you get them used Edit: typo permalink fedilink source parent [–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago China hacked my fucking coffee mug. permalink fedilink source parent [+] deranger@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago (14 children) Are non smart TVs even still a thing nowadays? I don't own or watch any TV so I honestly don't know how the market currently looks like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] TenderfootGungi@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (4 children) Yes. They are sold for commercial use, e.g., McD’s menu, and are quite pricey. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] thegreekgeek@midwest.social 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think you meant to say not subsidized by ad tracking lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Yes, not subsidized...and therefore pricy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] wjrii@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) Depends on your definition of "quite pricey." There's no equivalent of a $250 50" Insignia FireTV, but I've seen Samsung signage displays on Amazon for about a $75-$100 premium over their comparable Smart TVs. They also don't come with a stand, so if you weren't already buying a VESA mount you'll need to add another $40-80. There is a significant premium, but it's not necessarily orders of magnitude. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] grayman@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago And they're made better... To be on 24x7. So you're also paying for a better quality display. That's worth paying for too. permalink fedilink source parent [–] guyrocket@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago (4 children) Apparently "smartness" has not invaded projectors...per a comment I read here on kbin a while back from a projector owner. This really encourages me to buy one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Alienator@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) It did though, last time I went to a tech store, there was a samsung smart projector that had all the capabilities of a smart tv permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] guyrocket@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I hope it is not ubiquitous. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Alienator@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Not yet, but it is definitely heading that direction permalink fedilink source parent [–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 5 points 2 years ago Although a projector would need you to have a home with a whole spare wall. And would force you to dim the lights all the time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chozo@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago They're harder to find, for sure. Especially if you want a large screen. When I was shopping around a few years ago, the only 65" TV I could find without smart features was a Sceptre, which is Walmart's electronics brand. Speakers so bad that I had to buy a sound bar, and the display isn't that great, but it gets the job done and I don't need to worry about it being an attack vector. permalink fedilink source parent [–] alignedchaos@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago* They get called “monitors” a lot (depending whether you need them to pick up cable/airwaves of course) permalink fedilink source parent [–] BigT54@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Not really but you can always get a "smart" tv and never connect it to the Internet. If you want to stream just use an external device you trust like a PC permalink fedilink source parent [–] lemann@lemmy.one 1 point 2 years ago* Yepp - hop on Ebay or some surplus auction site, and search for commercial/signage displays. Don't bother buying new unless you have the money for it IMO, they are expensive unless you get them used Edit: typo permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TenderfootGungi@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (4 children) Yes. They are sold for commercial use, e.g., McD’s menu, and are quite pricey. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] thegreekgeek@midwest.social 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think you meant to say not subsidized by ad tracking lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Yes, not subsidized...and therefore pricy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] wjrii@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) Depends on your definition of "quite pricey." There's no equivalent of a $250 50" Insignia FireTV, but I've seen Samsung signage displays on Amazon for about a $75-$100 premium over their comparable Smart TVs. They also don't come with a stand, so if you weren't already buying a VESA mount you'll need to add another $40-80. There is a significant premium, but it's not necessarily orders of magnitude. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] grayman@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago And they're made better... To be on 24x7. So you're also paying for a better quality display. That's worth paying for too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] thegreekgeek@midwest.social 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think you meant to say not subsidized by ad tracking lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Yes, not subsidized...and therefore pricy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Yes, not subsidized...and therefore pricy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wjrii@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) Depends on your definition of "quite pricey." There's no equivalent of a $250 50" Insignia FireTV, but I've seen Samsung signage displays on Amazon for about a $75-$100 premium over their comparable Smart TVs. They also don't come with a stand, so if you weren't already buying a VESA mount you'll need to add another $40-80. There is a significant premium, but it's not necessarily orders of magnitude. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] grayman@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago And they're made better... To be on 24x7. So you're also paying for a better quality display. That's worth paying for too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grayman@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago And they're made better... To be on 24x7. So you're also paying for a better quality display. That's worth paying for too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] guyrocket@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago (4 children) Apparently "smartness" has not invaded projectors...per a comment I read here on kbin a while back from a projector owner. This really encourages me to buy one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Alienator@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) It did though, last time I went to a tech store, there was a samsung smart projector that had all the capabilities of a smart tv permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] guyrocket@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I hope it is not ubiquitous. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Alienator@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Not yet, but it is definitely heading that direction permalink fedilink source parent [–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 5 points 2 years ago Although a projector would need you to have a home with a whole spare wall. And would force you to dim the lights all the time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Alienator@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) It did though, last time I went to a tech store, there was a samsung smart projector that had all the capabilities of a smart tv permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] guyrocket@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I hope it is not ubiquitous. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Alienator@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Not yet, but it is definitely heading that direction permalink fedilink source parent
[–] guyrocket@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I hope it is not ubiquitous. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Alienator@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Not yet, but it is definitely heading that direction permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Alienator@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Not yet, but it is definitely heading that direction permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 5 points 2 years ago Although a projector would need you to have a home with a whole spare wall. And would force you to dim the lights all the time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Chozo@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago They're harder to find, for sure. Especially if you want a large screen. When I was shopping around a few years ago, the only 65" TV I could find without smart features was a Sceptre, which is Walmart's electronics brand. Speakers so bad that I had to buy a sound bar, and the display isn't that great, but it gets the job done and I don't need to worry about it being an attack vector. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] alignedchaos@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago* They get called “monitors” a lot (depending whether you need them to pick up cable/airwaves of course) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BigT54@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Not really but you can always get a "smart" tv and never connect it to the Internet. If you want to stream just use an external device you trust like a PC permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lemann@lemmy.one 1 point 2 years ago* Yepp - hop on Ebay or some surplus auction site, and search for commercial/signage displays. Don't bother buying new unless you have the money for it IMO, they are expensive unless you get them used Edit: typo permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago China hacked my fucking coffee mug. permalink fedilink source parent