When you limit yourself to specific incidents, it’s easy to judge right and wrong. Over the course of years, though, neither side can claim the moral high ground.

Overall, this is one of the most pointless, wasteful, and inhumane conflicts in human history.

Killing - no matter the victim is inhuman.

Believing one side has the right to kill while the other must take it, is pretty gross.

"Slaughtering civilians in the streets" is precisely what the IDF does on the regular, just so you know. It's hard to imagine any group of people would live under military occupation for 70+ years after being forced to leave their homes for refugee camps without the desire to fight for their freedom.

Isn't that what the IDF does?

The IDF was just rounding up innocent civilians this week, you gotta look at a bigger picture than just this morning.

Imagine being brutalised for so long you resort to this

let people live and come to some terms/ reality.

So I take you support a ceasefire and negotiations to end the Russia - Ukraine war?

Agreed, we need for the Europeans and occupiers to go home.

u mad, settler?

tell that to the fascist government exterminating palestinians on their own land

That's what op was advocating for. Or did you forget that Israel is an apartheid state?

and come to some terms/ reality.

Imagine telling this to someone when France was under occupation by Germany

What a moving, salient political take. Good thing "Just stop it and leave us alone😡🤬" is a belief that always survives against armed militant resistance

With the establishment of a relationship of oppression, violence has already begun. Never in history has violence been initiated by the oppressed. How could they be the initiators, if they themselves are the result of violence? How could they be the sponsors of something objective whose objective inauguration called forth their existence as oppressed? There would be no oppressed had there been no prior of violence to establish their subjugation.

And it is clear that in the colonial countries the peasants alone are revolutionary, for they have nothing to lose and everything to gain. The starving peasant, outside the class system is the first among the exploited to discover that only violence pays. For him there is no compromise, no possible coming to terms; colonization and decolonization a simply a question of relative strength.

Get this into your head: if violence were only a thing of the future, if exploitation and oppression never existed on earth, perhaps displays of nonviolence might relieve the conflict. But if the entire regime, even your nonviolent thoughts, is governed by a thousand-year old oppression, your passiveness serves no other purpose but to put you on the side of the oppressors.

The illegal settlements that are condemmed by the UN? Yeah sound about right to let murderous religious fundamentalist occupiers just occupy. You say the same to the Ukrainian people fighting the Russian invasion? They should just come to terms with Crimea being occupied?