▲ 1083 ▼ New Study: 54% of American Adults Read Below 6th Grade-Levels (i.redd.it) submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by zoe@lemm.ee to c/aboringdystopia@lemmy.world 362 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://lemmit.online/post/1006130 This is an automated archive made by the Lemmit Bot. The original was posted on /r/aboringdystopia by /u/Last_Salad_5080 on 2023-10-03 14:21:04. https://medium.com/@chrisjeffrieshomelessromantic/new-study-54-of-american-adults-read-below-6th-grade-levels-70031328fda9
[–] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago (2 children) And yet "Terms Of Service" are supposed to be fair. When they're written at a college level. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] time_lord@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not just college, but by lawyers, so a doctorate level. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That seems a little generous. While I know it's challenging, I don't think law school is quite the same thing as a PhD program. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I agree with your statement, but law school (in the US) gives you a literal doctorate. It's not a PhD but JD stands for juris doctor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 1 point 2 years ago Yes, I am aware of what JD stands for. Glad that we can agree that it's not really equivalent to a PhD. A little known fact is that provided one can pass their local bar exam, they're still a lawyer/officer of the court, regardless of whether they attended law school or not. It's not really a thing anymore, but historically a lot of lawyers served a kind of apprenticeship in lieu of law-school. Abraham Lincoln is a great example, for instance. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Reddit_Is_Trash@reddthat.com -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's not the terms of service's fault that adults can't read over a 6th grade level permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SolarMech@slrpnk.net 18 points 2 years ago (2 children) No, but think about how we structure society. We give people shit education, and they wind up not being able to read at a 6th grade level. Then you basically have to navigate an entire world where you are required to pick how to sign away some of your rights/enter deals written beyond their comprehension. This is a system that breeds suckers as sets them up as suckers, to screw them later. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago On the other hand, always targeting the lowest common denominator has negative consequences also. There needs to be a balance, and equity to close the gaps. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lastinsaneman@lemmy.wtf 2 points 2 years ago The solution to that isn't to dumb down everything, it's to lift everyone else up. Mandate that adults be educated and provide remedial classes at community colleges for free. Failure to comply results in losing the ability to hold gainful employment or vote. Anonymize testing and tie test results to social security numbers. It's either do that, or allow civilization to collapse while other countries that do force their citizens to be educated flourish. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] time_lord@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not just college, but by lawyers, so a doctorate level. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That seems a little generous. While I know it's challenging, I don't think law school is quite the same thing as a PhD program. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I agree with your statement, but law school (in the US) gives you a literal doctorate. It's not a PhD but JD stands for juris doctor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 1 point 2 years ago Yes, I am aware of what JD stands for. Glad that we can agree that it's not really equivalent to a PhD. A little known fact is that provided one can pass their local bar exam, they're still a lawyer/officer of the court, regardless of whether they attended law school or not. It's not really a thing anymore, but historically a lot of lawyers served a kind of apprenticeship in lieu of law-school. Abraham Lincoln is a great example, for instance. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That seems a little generous. While I know it's challenging, I don't think law school is quite the same thing as a PhD program. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I agree with your statement, but law school (in the US) gives you a literal doctorate. It's not a PhD but JD stands for juris doctor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 1 point 2 years ago Yes, I am aware of what JD stands for. Glad that we can agree that it's not really equivalent to a PhD. A little known fact is that provided one can pass their local bar exam, they're still a lawyer/officer of the court, regardless of whether they attended law school or not. It's not really a thing anymore, but historically a lot of lawyers served a kind of apprenticeship in lieu of law-school. Abraham Lincoln is a great example, for instance. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I agree with your statement, but law school (in the US) gives you a literal doctorate. It's not a PhD but JD stands for juris doctor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 1 point 2 years ago Yes, I am aware of what JD stands for. Glad that we can agree that it's not really equivalent to a PhD. A little known fact is that provided one can pass their local bar exam, they're still a lawyer/officer of the court, regardless of whether they attended law school or not. It's not really a thing anymore, but historically a lot of lawyers served a kind of apprenticeship in lieu of law-school. Abraham Lincoln is a great example, for instance. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 1 point 2 years ago Yes, I am aware of what JD stands for. Glad that we can agree that it's not really equivalent to a PhD. A little known fact is that provided one can pass their local bar exam, they're still a lawyer/officer of the court, regardless of whether they attended law school or not. It's not really a thing anymore, but historically a lot of lawyers served a kind of apprenticeship in lieu of law-school. Abraham Lincoln is a great example, for instance. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Reddit_Is_Trash@reddthat.com -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's not the terms of service's fault that adults can't read over a 6th grade level permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SolarMech@slrpnk.net 18 points 2 years ago (2 children) No, but think about how we structure society. We give people shit education, and they wind up not being able to read at a 6th grade level. Then you basically have to navigate an entire world where you are required to pick how to sign away some of your rights/enter deals written beyond their comprehension. This is a system that breeds suckers as sets them up as suckers, to screw them later. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago On the other hand, always targeting the lowest common denominator has negative consequences also. There needs to be a balance, and equity to close the gaps. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lastinsaneman@lemmy.wtf 2 points 2 years ago The solution to that isn't to dumb down everything, it's to lift everyone else up. Mandate that adults be educated and provide remedial classes at community colleges for free. Failure to comply results in losing the ability to hold gainful employment or vote. Anonymize testing and tie test results to social security numbers. It's either do that, or allow civilization to collapse while other countries that do force their citizens to be educated flourish. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SolarMech@slrpnk.net 18 points 2 years ago (2 children) No, but think about how we structure society. We give people shit education, and they wind up not being able to read at a 6th grade level. Then you basically have to navigate an entire world where you are required to pick how to sign away some of your rights/enter deals written beyond their comprehension. This is a system that breeds suckers as sets them up as suckers, to screw them later. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago On the other hand, always targeting the lowest common denominator has negative consequences also. There needs to be a balance, and equity to close the gaps. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lastinsaneman@lemmy.wtf 2 points 2 years ago The solution to that isn't to dumb down everything, it's to lift everyone else up. Mandate that adults be educated and provide remedial classes at community colleges for free. Failure to comply results in losing the ability to hold gainful employment or vote. Anonymize testing and tie test results to social security numbers. It's either do that, or allow civilization to collapse while other countries that do force their citizens to be educated flourish. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago On the other hand, always targeting the lowest common denominator has negative consequences also. There needs to be a balance, and equity to close the gaps. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lastinsaneman@lemmy.wtf 2 points 2 years ago The solution to that isn't to dumb down everything, it's to lift everyone else up. Mandate that adults be educated and provide remedial classes at community colleges for free. Failure to comply results in losing the ability to hold gainful employment or vote. Anonymize testing and tie test results to social security numbers. It's either do that, or allow civilization to collapse while other countries that do force their citizens to be educated flourish. permalink fedilink source parent
