▲ 600 ▼ A visual guide to ACL Access-Control Lists (lemmy.g97.top) submitted 2 years ago by gabriele97@lemmy.g97.top to c/linux@lemmy.ml 47 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] davefischer@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Windows NT ACLs come from VMS. The Unix world has traditionally not liked ACLs because Multics had them, and Unix was an ultra-minimalist response to Multics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zero_iq@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Yep, you're right. I was thinking of an ACL evolution/chain of influence of VMS -> AIX -> NT, but it seems VMS -> NT and VMS -> AIX as two separate histories is much more accurate. Thanks for the correction -- I've updated my comment accordingly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davefischer@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) My AIX experience is very limited. What was the VMS connection? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zero_iq@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) VMS implemented ACLs in the early 80s. It's design influenced the design of ACLs in both AIX and Windows NT. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davefischer@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago Yeah, I'm familiar with VMS, and Cutler bringing a lot of the internal design to W/NT. (I'm told in particular a lot of the data structures for system calls in NT look like VMS.) My AIX experience has consisted entirely of "This is weird. This isn't normal for Unix." Ha ha. (I had a 1st gen RS/6000 at home briefly in the late 90s.) And I do have a "grey wall" in my library: permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zero_iq@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Yep, you're right. I was thinking of an ACL evolution/chain of influence of VMS -> AIX -> NT, but it seems VMS -> NT and VMS -> AIX as two separate histories is much more accurate. Thanks for the correction -- I've updated my comment accordingly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davefischer@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) My AIX experience is very limited. What was the VMS connection? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zero_iq@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) VMS implemented ACLs in the early 80s. It's design influenced the design of ACLs in both AIX and Windows NT. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davefischer@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago Yeah, I'm familiar with VMS, and Cutler bringing a lot of the internal design to W/NT. (I'm told in particular a lot of the data structures for system calls in NT look like VMS.) My AIX experience has consisted entirely of "This is weird. This isn't normal for Unix." Ha ha. (I had a 1st gen RS/6000 at home briefly in the late 90s.) And I do have a "grey wall" in my library: permalink fedilink source parent
[–] davefischer@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) My AIX experience is very limited. What was the VMS connection? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zero_iq@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) VMS implemented ACLs in the early 80s. It's design influenced the design of ACLs in both AIX and Windows NT. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davefischer@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago Yeah, I'm familiar with VMS, and Cutler bringing a lot of the internal design to W/NT. (I'm told in particular a lot of the data structures for system calls in NT look like VMS.) My AIX experience has consisted entirely of "This is weird. This isn't normal for Unix." Ha ha. (I had a 1st gen RS/6000 at home briefly in the late 90s.) And I do have a "grey wall" in my library: permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zero_iq@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) VMS implemented ACLs in the early 80s. It's design influenced the design of ACLs in both AIX and Windows NT. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davefischer@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago Yeah, I'm familiar with VMS, and Cutler bringing a lot of the internal design to W/NT. (I'm told in particular a lot of the data structures for system calls in NT look like VMS.) My AIX experience has consisted entirely of "This is weird. This isn't normal for Unix." Ha ha. (I had a 1st gen RS/6000 at home briefly in the late 90s.) And I do have a "grey wall" in my library: permalink fedilink source parent
[–] davefischer@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago Yeah, I'm familiar with VMS, and Cutler bringing a lot of the internal design to W/NT. (I'm told in particular a lot of the data structures for system calls in NT look like VMS.) My AIX experience has consisted entirely of "This is weird. This isn't normal for Unix." Ha ha. (I had a 1st gen RS/6000 at home briefly in the late 90s.) And I do have a "grey wall" in my library: permalink fedilink source parent
