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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s not a defense. Opinion pieces can be fine, but if you’re claiming that something is off the charts you should probably have some charts (or any points of data) to prove the claim.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Then... Disprove it? If there's such distinct evidence that counters the article, might as well use it in your argument lol

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not how the burden of proof goes. The article is making a claim. It's on the article's authors to prove it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Again, if you have such a strong argument, why don't you use it?

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago

The person is saying the article doesn't prove their claim at all; they're not necessarily saying the article is wrong

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can you prove that China isn't an oppressive authoritarian capitalist state?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Do I need to? I haven't had a visceral reaction to the article.

For what it's worth, China's affirmative action policies for minority groups put the US to shame. Significantly easier college admissions (despite using a standardized process), extremely generous business loans, proportional ethnic representation in government, vast infrastructure projects to bridge the salary gap, and celebrations of different cultures across the country. Not very capitalist of them, given that these infrastructure projects (while very beneficial to the endpoints) are not profitable.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nobody else has had a visceral reaction, we’ve just pointed out bad journalism 🙂 Using big negative words might make you feel better, but it doesn’t make them accurate. You’re using them to be dismissive of our points

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

Treating minorities better than the USA isn't exactly a high bar.

My country also treats minorities better than the USA, it's easy to get into uni, celebrates diversity, has an alright social welfare system and socialised healthcare, does the occasional infrastructure project etc.

Thanks for teaching me that I'm actually living in a socialist paradise rather than a poor, neoliberal capitalist, physically isolated island where private corporations are free to wreck the environment for profit!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Significantly easier college admissions (despite using a standardized process), extremely generous business loans, proportional ethnic representation in government, vast infrastructure projects to bridge the salary gap, and celebrations of different cultures across the country. Not very capitalist of them

Sorry OP but basically none of this has anything to do with not being capitalist. I don't even doubt that China is doing better in those departments than America, but that has more to do with how utterly shit America is at most things outside of building bombs than how communist China is. They should get some kudos for executing a couple billionaires, though, gotta at least give 'em that.