▲ 1299 ▼ The Fediverse should do what redditors have always wanted and Reddit Inc. has always refused to do; Distinguish between NSFW and NSFL. (lemm.ee) submitted 2 years ago by Comment105@lemm.ee to c/meta@lemm.ee 151 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 310 points 2 years ago (7 children) Nsfw, Nsfl, and "Porn" I like nsfw memes but dont want my feed full of porn. I have a seperate account for porn. permalink fedilink source hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] FrederikNJS@lemm.ee 75 points 2 years ago Yes, a renaissance artwork that contains naked women, actual hardcore porn, and a Russian soldier being blown to pieces in Ukraine, should not occupy the same "NSFW" tag... Of course there's going to be grey area stuff, but 3 buckets like this is much much better than a single "everything people might not want to see" bucket. permalink fedilink source parent [–] collegefurtrader@discuss.tchncs.de 40 points 2 years ago* (3 children) But all the sfw porn subs ruined it. Need a new tag like “sexporn” or “genitals” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] AdmiralShat@programming.dev 61 points 2 years ago* (3 children) I think sfw porn is still porn. If we're being honest, it's not sfw either permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] keefshape@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago* Nope. Its not. Pretty sure my boss would agree if caught with sfw porn on company laptop. Edit - its not sfw. It's a trap. Get an axe. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Arfman@aussie.zone 7 points 2 years ago "Who are all these people in officewear? I've never seen them here." "Um" permalink fedilink source parent [–] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago CablePorn is definitely sfw permalink fedilink source parent [–] danc4498@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sounds like we’re just describing tags at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] keefshape@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Shush your incompatible logic 😉 permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheGreenGolem@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago SeGz permalink fedilink source parent [–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 15 points 2 years ago (2 children) I feel like the lines at that point get way too blurred. It would be like having a "porn" and "full blown porn" tag or hardcore versus softcore. I will admit a distinct NSFW tag could be good for somewhat taboo stuff like mildly offensive jokes for example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ComradeKhoumrag@infosec.pub 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Would be kind of hilarious. You can have one normal tag like "serious" is for ask lemmy, then a million tags like soft core, forced, NSFL, etc... Like the fediverse would be catering to SO MUCH PORN at that point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 3 points 2 years ago I don't think it would mean much with each instance having their own rules. I can only imagine instances arguing and defederating from each other because they have different rules regarding tagging. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tehmics@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) What if we just had specific tags that we could filter for. everything gets the nsfw tag but we have specific tags for nudity, violence, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 1 point 2 years ago I'm not sure my concern would still be blurred lines and people either forgetting to use tags or not realizing how or when to use them. For example a news article about police violence getting tagged with the violence tag on some instances but not others. I'm also opposed to auto or over moderation and I feel like it's one of those things that could potentially push Lemmy in that direction eventually. permalink fedilink source parent [–] fruitSnackSupreme@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) How do you actually find porn on Lemmy? I've tried and failed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (2 children) Apparently lemmynsfw.com. But it's mostly celebrity pics, so I'm not entirely sure where else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're only seeing celebrity pics because that is the only SFW community on lemmynsfw. By default most lemmy instances hide NSFW posts unless you're logged in with an account set to show NSFW. They are running 0.18.3-nsfwpatch, so if you navigate there directly you will see everything, but viewing lemmynsfw logged out from another instance will only show you celebrity pictures. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I have NSFW Content enabled but I still am not seeing the porn (I'm on lemm.ee) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Comment105@lemm.ee [S] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) So Lemmy is the Linux of smut, watch a 15 min tutorial and you'll probably have it set up. If not, it's comprehensive troubleshooting time! That's always the sexiest part anyways. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago I see permalink fedilink source parent [–] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago* You need to enable 'NSFW' content in settings, which probably requires an account. Without that, you just see 'SFW' content (on feeds, at least), which is as you describe permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheBest@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago sort by new search term "nsfw", subscribe and filter from there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pascal@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) NSFW is an American construct, in Europe people don't get scared by nudity. If Lemmy is truly worldwide, we can get rid of it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thepreciousboar@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) In Europe you wouldn't want a dick on your phone while you are in the office or on the subway permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pascal@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago People would literally rather care more about why are you on lemmy or reddit during work time than your sexual preferences. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ChadCMulligan@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Dig it permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheCee@programming.dev -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) This and also politics or religious dull stuff like sports By "porn", I suppose you mean nudity? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago (3 children) At this point just have a tag system and let people vote on tags. It's a great way to get to reddit-like niche content curation at smaller acale across many smaller instances. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] _g_be@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago I like this idea, an evolution of label system rather than just reimplementing the reddit model permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheCee@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago Good idea. Unfortunately this depends on self-regulation. permalink fedilink source parent [+] kamenlady@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FrederikNJS@lemm.ee 75 points 2 years ago Yes, a renaissance artwork that contains naked women, actual hardcore porn, and a Russian soldier being blown to pieces in Ukraine, should not occupy the same "NSFW" tag... Of course there's going to be grey area stuff, but 3 buckets like this is much much better than a single "everything people might not want to see" bucket. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] collegefurtrader@discuss.tchncs.de 40 points 2 years ago* (3 children) But all the sfw porn subs ruined it. Need a new tag like “sexporn” or “genitals” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] AdmiralShat@programming.dev 61 points 2 years ago* (3 children) I think sfw porn is still porn. If we're being honest, it's not sfw either permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] keefshape@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago* Nope. Its not. Pretty sure my boss would agree if caught with sfw porn on company laptop. Edit - its not sfw. It's a trap. Get an axe. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Arfman@aussie.zone 7 points 2 years ago "Who are all these people in officewear? I've never seen them here." "Um" permalink fedilink source parent [–] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago CablePorn is definitely sfw permalink fedilink source parent [–] danc4498@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sounds like we’re just describing tags at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] keefshape@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Shush your incompatible logic 😉 permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheGreenGolem@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago SeGz permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AdmiralShat@programming.dev 61 points 2 years ago* (3 children) I think sfw porn is still porn. If we're being honest, it's not sfw either permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] keefshape@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago* Nope. Its not. Pretty sure my boss would agree if caught with sfw porn on company laptop. Edit - its not sfw. It's a trap. Get an axe. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Arfman@aussie.zone 7 points 2 years ago "Who are all these people in officewear? I've never seen them here." "Um" permalink fedilink source parent [–] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago CablePorn is definitely sfw permalink fedilink source parent
[–] keefshape@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago* Nope. Its not. Pretty sure my boss would agree if caught with sfw porn on company laptop. Edit - its not sfw. It's a trap. Get an axe. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Arfman@aussie.zone 7 points 2 years ago "Who are all these people in officewear? I've never seen them here." "Um" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago CablePorn is definitely sfw permalink fedilink source parent
[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sounds like we’re just describing tags at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] keefshape@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Shush your incompatible logic 😉 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] keefshape@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Shush your incompatible logic 😉 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 15 points 2 years ago (2 children) I feel like the lines at that point get way too blurred. It would be like having a "porn" and "full blown porn" tag or hardcore versus softcore. I will admit a distinct NSFW tag could be good for somewhat taboo stuff like mildly offensive jokes for example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ComradeKhoumrag@infosec.pub 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Would be kind of hilarious. You can have one normal tag like "serious" is for ask lemmy, then a million tags like soft core, forced, NSFL, etc... Like the fediverse would be catering to SO MUCH PORN at that point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 3 points 2 years ago I don't think it would mean much with each instance having their own rules. I can only imagine instances arguing and defederating from each other because they have different rules regarding tagging. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tehmics@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) What if we just had specific tags that we could filter for. everything gets the nsfw tag but we have specific tags for nudity, violence, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 1 point 2 years ago I'm not sure my concern would still be blurred lines and people either forgetting to use tags or not realizing how or when to use them. For example a news article about police violence getting tagged with the violence tag on some instances but not others. I'm also opposed to auto or over moderation and I feel like it's one of those things that could potentially push Lemmy in that direction eventually. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ComradeKhoumrag@infosec.pub 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Would be kind of hilarious. You can have one normal tag like "serious" is for ask lemmy, then a million tags like soft core, forced, NSFL, etc... Like the fediverse would be catering to SO MUCH PORN at that point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 3 points 2 years ago I don't think it would mean much with each instance having their own rules. I can only imagine instances arguing and defederating from each other because they have different rules regarding tagging. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 3 points 2 years ago I don't think it would mean much with each instance having their own rules. I can only imagine instances arguing and defederating from each other because they have different rules regarding tagging. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tehmics@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) What if we just had specific tags that we could filter for. everything gets the nsfw tag but we have specific tags for nudity, violence, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 1 point 2 years ago I'm not sure my concern would still be blurred lines and people either forgetting to use tags or not realizing how or when to use them. For example a news article about police violence getting tagged with the violence tag on some instances but not others. I'm also opposed to auto or over moderation and I feel like it's one of those things that could potentially push Lemmy in that direction eventually. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 1 point 2 years ago I'm not sure my concern would still be blurred lines and people either forgetting to use tags or not realizing how or when to use them. For example a news article about police violence getting tagged with the violence tag on some instances but not others. I'm also opposed to auto or over moderation and I feel like it's one of those things that could potentially push Lemmy in that direction eventually. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fruitSnackSupreme@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) How do you actually find porn on Lemmy? I've tried and failed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (2 children) Apparently lemmynsfw.com. But it's mostly celebrity pics, so I'm not entirely sure where else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're only seeing celebrity pics because that is the only SFW community on lemmynsfw. By default most lemmy instances hide NSFW posts unless you're logged in with an account set to show NSFW. They are running 0.18.3-nsfwpatch, so if you navigate there directly you will see everything, but viewing lemmynsfw logged out from another instance will only show you celebrity pictures. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I have NSFW Content enabled but I still am not seeing the porn (I'm on lemm.ee) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Comment105@lemm.ee [S] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) So Lemmy is the Linux of smut, watch a 15 min tutorial and you'll probably have it set up. If not, it's comprehensive troubleshooting time! That's always the sexiest part anyways. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago I see permalink fedilink source parent [–] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago* You need to enable 'NSFW' content in settings, which probably requires an account. Without that, you just see 'SFW' content (on feeds, at least), which is as you describe permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheBest@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago sort by new search term "nsfw", subscribe and filter from there. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (2 children) Apparently lemmynsfw.com. But it's mostly celebrity pics, so I'm not entirely sure where else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're only seeing celebrity pics because that is the only SFW community on lemmynsfw. By default most lemmy instances hide NSFW posts unless you're logged in with an account set to show NSFW. They are running 0.18.3-nsfwpatch, so if you navigate there directly you will see everything, but viewing lemmynsfw logged out from another instance will only show you celebrity pictures. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I have NSFW Content enabled but I still am not seeing the porn (I'm on lemm.ee) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Comment105@lemm.ee [S] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) So Lemmy is the Linux of smut, watch a 15 min tutorial and you'll probably have it set up. If not, it's comprehensive troubleshooting time! That's always the sexiest part anyways. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago I see permalink fedilink source parent [–] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago* You need to enable 'NSFW' content in settings, which probably requires an account. Without that, you just see 'SFW' content (on feeds, at least), which is as you describe permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're only seeing celebrity pics because that is the only SFW community on lemmynsfw. By default most lemmy instances hide NSFW posts unless you're logged in with an account set to show NSFW. They are running 0.18.3-nsfwpatch, so if you navigate there directly you will see everything, but viewing lemmynsfw logged out from another instance will only show you celebrity pictures. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I have NSFW Content enabled but I still am not seeing the porn (I'm on lemm.ee) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Comment105@lemm.ee [S] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) So Lemmy is the Linux of smut, watch a 15 min tutorial and you'll probably have it set up. If not, it's comprehensive troubleshooting time! That's always the sexiest part anyways. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago I see permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I have NSFW Content enabled but I still am not seeing the porn (I'm on lemm.ee) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Comment105@lemm.ee [S] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) So Lemmy is the Linux of smut, watch a 15 min tutorial and you'll probably have it set up. If not, it's comprehensive troubleshooting time! That's always the sexiest part anyways. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago I see permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Comment105@lemm.ee [S] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) So Lemmy is the Linux of smut, watch a 15 min tutorial and you'll probably have it set up. If not, it's comprehensive troubleshooting time! That's always the sexiest part anyways. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago I see permalink fedilink source parent
[–] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago* You need to enable 'NSFW' content in settings, which probably requires an account. Without that, you just see 'SFW' content (on feeds, at least), which is as you describe permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheBest@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago sort by new search term "nsfw", subscribe and filter from there. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pascal@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) NSFW is an American construct, in Europe people don't get scared by nudity. If Lemmy is truly worldwide, we can get rid of it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thepreciousboar@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) In Europe you wouldn't want a dick on your phone while you are in the office or on the subway permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pascal@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago People would literally rather care more about why are you on lemmy or reddit during work time than your sexual preferences. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] thepreciousboar@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) In Europe you wouldn't want a dick on your phone while you are in the office or on the subway permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pascal@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago People would literally rather care more about why are you on lemmy or reddit during work time than your sexual preferences. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pascal@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago People would literally rather care more about why are you on lemmy or reddit during work time than your sexual preferences. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheCee@programming.dev -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) This and also politics or religious dull stuff like sports By "porn", I suppose you mean nudity? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago (3 children) At this point just have a tag system and let people vote on tags. It's a great way to get to reddit-like niche content curation at smaller acale across many smaller instances. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] _g_be@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago I like this idea, an evolution of label system rather than just reimplementing the reddit model permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheCee@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago Good idea. Unfortunately this depends on self-regulation. permalink fedilink source parent [+] kamenlady@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago (3 children) At this point just have a tag system and let people vote on tags. It's a great way to get to reddit-like niche content curation at smaller acale across many smaller instances. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] _g_be@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago I like this idea, an evolution of label system rather than just reimplementing the reddit model permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheCee@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago Good idea. Unfortunately this depends on self-regulation. permalink fedilink source parent [+] kamenlady@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] _g_be@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago I like this idea, an evolution of label system rather than just reimplementing the reddit model permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheCee@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago Good idea. Unfortunately this depends on self-regulation. permalink fedilink source parent