β² 98 βΌ If you had access to a scifi-level artificial super intelligence that could simulate anything perfectly at unimaginable speeds, what experiments would you want to run that would be unethical otherwise (sh.itjust.works) submitted 2 years ago by Fuck_u_spez_@sh.itjust.works to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml 75 comments fedilink hide all child comments ? (I hit the title character limit)
[β] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Not if consciousness isn't an emerging phenomena. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] JGrffn@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago If everything is perfectly simulated, the rules that allow consciousness to emerge are also there, and thus consciousness would emerge, regardless of whether it's a simulation or reality. If we only simulate a consciousness without laws of reality, that consciousness would still be designed to mimic a consciousness from a reality with laws (ours), and since it would be a perfect simulation (and it would have to be so in order to run meaningful tests), that consciousness might as well be as real as us. Thus, unethical. permalink fedilink source parent [β] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Itβs a pre-existing phenomenon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) We don't know that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Consciousness existing everywhere is the simplest explanation that fits the known fact: that consciousness exists here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 1 point 2 years ago Well we only know that we are conscious ourselves, there are no actual proof that anyone else is conscious. I mean it's probable, but not proven. So the only thing I can be sure about is that I am conscious, not that anyone else is. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] JGrffn@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago If everything is perfectly simulated, the rules that allow consciousness to emerge are also there, and thus consciousness would emerge, regardless of whether it's a simulation or reality. If we only simulate a consciousness without laws of reality, that consciousness would still be designed to mimic a consciousness from a reality with laws (ours), and since it would be a perfect simulation (and it would have to be so in order to run meaningful tests), that consciousness might as well be as real as us. Thus, unethical. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Itβs a pre-existing phenomenon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) We don't know that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Consciousness existing everywhere is the simplest explanation that fits the known fact: that consciousness exists here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 1 point 2 years ago Well we only know that we are conscious ourselves, there are no actual proof that anyone else is conscious. I mean it's probable, but not proven. So the only thing I can be sure about is that I am conscious, not that anyone else is. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) We don't know that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Consciousness existing everywhere is the simplest explanation that fits the known fact: that consciousness exists here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 1 point 2 years ago Well we only know that we are conscious ourselves, there are no actual proof that anyone else is conscious. I mean it's probable, but not proven. So the only thing I can be sure about is that I am conscious, not that anyone else is. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Consciousness existing everywhere is the simplest explanation that fits the known fact: that consciousness exists here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 1 point 2 years ago Well we only know that we are conscious ourselves, there are no actual proof that anyone else is conscious. I mean it's probable, but not proven. So the only thing I can be sure about is that I am conscious, not that anyone else is. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 1 point 2 years ago Well we only know that we are conscious ourselves, there are no actual proof that anyone else is conscious. I mean it's probable, but not proven. So the only thing I can be sure about is that I am conscious, not that anyone else is. permalink fedilink source parent