TreadOnMe comments on Where should I start when it comes to learning dialectics?

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 6 points 21 hours ago* (3 children)

Then we just have a fundamentally different idea of where this stuff is coming from.

Mechanistic materialism just side steps the issue entirely. When does an idea qualitatively change? When people stop practicing the actions or when the reason they are doing something changes?

They are functionally discussing different things, imo.

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[–] Feed_el_Castro@hexbear.net 1 point 8 hours ago (2 children)

When does an idea qualitatively change? When people stop practicing the actions or when the reason they are doing something changes?

But isn't that materialism? Can you explain to me where's the dialectics in that?

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[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 1 point 2 hours ago (1 child)

Not really. Materialism doesn't really deal with the process of how or why an idea changes. It can deal with changes in hypotheses and describe that process, but without dialectics, that would, philosophically, just be the creation of another idea, not what it actually is, the transformation of the previous idea.

It's literally a difference in understanding the metaphysical nature of an idea is. If it sounds like an arbitrary qualifier, that is because metaphysics is mostly arbitrary qualifiers.

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[–] Feed_el_Castro@hexbear.net 1 point 2 hours ago

But ideas aren't metaphysical, nothing's metaphysical, that's one of the core aspects of materialism. I don't see why pure materialism is incompatible with how ideas change, can you explain that to me?

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