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How car-free is New York City? (thelemmy.club)
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[–] 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

Busses suck. They are inconsistent and rarely go where you need. Usually it is just easier to drive, as much as I hate to admit it.

Edit: The busses on the outskirts of Queens suck then. I don't know how they can be fixed honestly, just have complaints. They need to run more frequently and more reliably and to more places. They aren't comfortable and they're usually cramped. The roads are often unkind to the busses as well. I'm often looking at a 10 minute drive versus planning half my day around a grocery store trip. There is a reason that my area is called a transit desert. Most things are geared towards only going into Manhattan and to not within queens itself or even to Brooklyn.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 days ago

    I just got back to the US from two weeks in Rome and Milan.

    Buses are fucking great! Run everywhere, take you anywhere you want to go, skip traffic jams with the bus-only lanes and especially much faster than finding a parking spot.

    It’s my first time having a completely car-free vacation and I loved it. Too bad I had to come home to bad civic planning and drive everywhere again

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  • [–] 6 points 3 days ago* (1 child)

    Busses don't suck, if busses are stuck, traffic planning sucks. Busses have higher capacity in a well working system than cars. If you have capacity issues on the road, you needed bus only lanes. That would not reduce but actually increase street capacity, while removing the brakes from the busses.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago

    Sorry, I should have been specific. The busses in Queens suck, not the concept of busses itself. I added more to my comment with specific grips. I think the city has more important things to tackle at the moment than a mostly functioning bus system that sucks.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Busses themselves don't suck. Busses are fantastic when they are planned properly and have the infrastructure built to support them.

    If your local bus system sucks, then it's a poorly implemented system that needs to be fixed.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    @Crankenstein @xelareko

    And if they are noisy, full of vibrations and stinky, that too has been fixed.

    Electric buses are available.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago

    I should have been more specific. The buses in Queens suck not necessarily that the concept of busses suck. I hate driving so much. I would much rather take the train or subway or anything really. The city has a lot more important things to tackle than a functioning but kind of shitty bus system though.

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