For me it's a matter of who should take responsibility for those reckless idiots. Obviously, above all, it should be the government. They should have zero tolerance policy and fight it any way than can. Which they don't do. The accidents and noise is mostly on them. But those idiots are also part of a bigger community. It's not some separate group, there's a lot of overlap. Where motorcyclist gather (all the meetings, weekend rides, bars and so on) you will see the "normal" kind and the loud idiots riding together. If the community is not trying to stop this sociopathic behavior then I'm not willing to make some exceptions and say "those bikers are ok, those bikers are not". I see it simply as a toxic group. Some motorcyclist do dangerous and harmful things and others tolerate it and accept as part of the hobby. I don't mind people commuting on motorbikes because it's convenient but once we get to the "I ride because I like it" group they are all the same to me.
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