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[–] 11 points 5 days ago* (14 children)

nobody said anything about dog shocking or diddy, she made a principled anti-zionist statement. Why the derailing?

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  • [–] 8 points 5 days ago (7 children)

    It's called an analogy, because the "principled criticism", which I spent a whole paragraph addressing prior to that, does not correspond to the reality of the situation and we shouldn't be satisfied with false criticisms even of people who rightly should have mountains of scorn directed at them.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 days ago* (6 children)

    It's not an "analogy" in any way lol, it's you putting words in other peoples mouth to make their arguments worse. It's bad faith.

    That's just your apologetic version of events where you absolve Hasan of all responsibility of platforming and working with zionists. You aren't the authority where you can just declare your interpretation as the "true recounting". This man was a Platner supporter and defender, as well as a defender of AOCIA. He doesn't have an issue working with zionists or social fascists until people made it an issue by criticizing him.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 days ago (4 children)

    It's not an "analogy" in any way lol, it's you putting words in other peoples mouth to make their arguments worse. It's bad faith.

    No, absolutely not. It is fucking ludicrous to say that I was accusing them of actually, literally doing the dog shocking story.

    You aren't the authority where you can just declare your interpretation as the "true recounting".

    This might surprise you, but people usually believe they are right when they have a belief, that's what having a belief is, but my argument, correct or incorrect, rested on referring to a timeline of events that can be independently confirmed or falsified and at no point did I say someone should believe something about the production of the misbegotten podcast because I said so.

    This man was a Platner supporter and defender, as well as a defender of AOCIA.

    I also mentioned many other criticisms! My point isn't that he's a good guy, and in fact I still criticized him for working with Ethan in my original comment. I despise him, I just don't think this line of criticism is a fair representation of events.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 days ago* (3 children)

    i find your comments to be very tedious and trite and debate-bro, and always playing 'devils advocate' for the wrong side

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  • [–] 7 points 5 days ago (5 children)

    spurious accusations are usually bundled together

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  • [–] 8 points 5 days ago (3 children)

    the hasan defense crew hath arrived

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