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[–] 28 points 1 day ago (6 children)

$8B real loss on $16B revenue. ($72B is a bondholder gain (accounting loss) from conversion). $9B in training costs not counted as loss, even though it is worthless whenever next model version is released.

$561B in forced spending on compute over next 10 years, with $750B total compute costs lined up. Structural losses are baked in for a few years.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    But, when the word guessing program gains consciousness, it will be capable of doing the job of every worker in the world, and eager to do those jobs, and anybody who owns Anthropic shares will be a trillionaire in an economy that totally works and is healthy. So, better invest now!

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago

    Musk giving 1 share (about $160) to all US children with a Trump account, will make the next generation cheer for skynet genocide and oppression. "For a while, it added 10-20% to my net worth."

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    even though it is worthless whenever next model version is released.

    For most version releases I actually doubt that, I'm pretty sure they just keep training the model and release checkpoints every few months. Architectural changes, however, will indeed invalidate the previously trained models, and occasionally they have to do that to keep up with the competition.

    But if you do architectural changes even just once a year, that means you'd have to depreciate those training costs over just that one year to be truthful. Meaning they might as well be losses rather than depreciating capital investments.

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  • [–] 2 points 16 hours ago

    There is a genuine "training corpus" that is an accumulated asset and grows and feeds new models. The vast majority of training cost, that should be expensed, is the training time compute. Neither of these are expensed. There was about 13 major US model releases in September. At least 7 of these replaced a 1 month old previous model family. Open AI gpt sol went from 5.6 to 6 to 6.1 in about 2 months.

    Fast model releases not only lock in structural losses, they juice revenue growth illusions. Model use rate generally drops by 66% 4 weeks after release, because of competition, and a surge of use on release for evaluation.

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