The intitial investigation is in.

In a “bizarre and unprecedented” cyber-attack, hackers had remotely overridden the temperature settings on thousands of freezers, fridges and chiller cabinets pushing them from as low as -27C (-16.6F) to well over 50C (122F).

If shop managers first assumed it was an isolated failure, it soon became clear up to 700 stores – including those from the Intermarché, Coopérative U, Carrefour, Leclerc and Monoprix chains along with a number of smaller independent shops – had been victims of a cyber-attack.

The hackers had pirated the controllers supplied by the Danish company Danfoss that controls the freezers and fridges. Most supermarket cold aisles are connected to the internet to allow remote maintenance and alerts for system failures. Initial investigations suggest the hackers disabled alarm systems before tampering with the thermostats, or extended the defrost programme by several hours to avoid triggering alarms.

Danfoss said it had identified security flaws last year and had “long recommended” that customers install updates or replace obsolete unsupported systems. The affected refrigeration units were “running outdated firmware”, it said. In the days following the first wave of attacks, France’s cyber-attack alert centre ANSSI confirmed supermarkets using controllers from two other companies were also targeted.

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[–] 17 points 20 hours ago* (10 children)

Why do you need a web enabled fridge/freezer? I want a SNMP/Trap (one way, exit only) alarm when temp is getting near outside the "safe zone". One way, I set the numbers local, can't be changed otherwise.

Its simple (as am I), why does it need to be on the "cloud"??? AM I TAKING CRAZY PILLS?

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  • [–] 1 point 6 hours ago (1 child)

    One way, I set the numbers local, can't be changed otherwise.

    Its simple (as am I), why does it need to be on the "cloud"???

    That's fine when you have one fridge.

    Then you need to look after four thousand of them.

    Oh, it'll be fine, we'll just set things once while installing them.

    Oh look! New food, or efficiency, or store standards have dropped, now you need to update those settings in those 4 thousand fridges spread across the whole country. Well, we can do a couple of stores a day, I guess it'll only take a month of a service tech's time and travel costs to do it.

    Orrrrrrr..... we could hook these fridges up to the Internet and do it remotely, and update the settings on those 4000 fridges before lunch.

    That's the draw, convenient mass update. The main issue here is that they put the fridges on an unsecured network, and then on device auth was laughable, allowing any bored teenager with time on their hands to tinker with things.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 hours ago

    Orrrrrrr..... we could do it the ole fashion way and not add a layer(s) of failure and send out a email... Don't need security w/ a thermometer and a knob.

    I like my version better, simple.

    And be real, there is no ZOMG moment in food safety that requires a mass temp change ASAP. Freezers are below freezing and refers have been set to the same temp for 50+ years.

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  • [–] 3 points 13 hours ago (1 child)

    Companies are impressed by developers that only know how to build pretty dashboards by just installing every npm package under the sun, opening all of the ports on everything, and requiring a connection to the cloud to make their front-end work. There may even be someone working for the company that explains the problems, but those people get ignored.

    AI is just making this mentality worse.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 hours ago

    Dead on perspective.

    I've worked for that company, it was all "we can react in a moments notice on our smart phones" and other BS.

    Then we got a real customer, the first thing out of their mouth was "what happens if a bad player gets access to one of those "smart" phones?

    *crickets

    I was there for sales support. aka a data center monkey (engineer), I was there to answer "can we do that?" from sales.

    So blank stares follow from sales, sales looks at me to answer. I have been bitching that this is YUGE security hole for the last 2 years and I can't answer w/o making the company look bad.

    Then I realize why I'm there, I'm the escape goat (scapegoat). I sputter we are all patched up to the latest, we follow the tech bulletins (aka we are reactionary NOT proactive, no TQL another thing I bitched about). I'm trying to defend the undefendable, I wanted a walled system. You have to VPN in to see anything, no smart devices, not "lets everyone have access system" party.

    The sale tanked, I got blamed, I said GFY and quit. Got another gig but played dumb as it was easier day to day to let another chump like me learn a lesson. Take the pay check and go home.

    Now I live by: "Not my monkeys, not my circus"

    And don't get me going on Grafana... Let "church" up and make pretty data w/ another layer of M&C I have to set parameters too for the bosses to "oh ahh" over for some stuff shirt middle manager in a corn blue tie...

    So you can see why I hate "smart" anything.

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  • [–] 9 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

    Management wanted a killswitch they could control. Then they lost control.

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  • [–] 7 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

    This is one of those moments, like buying a new car that all the "bells"and whistles" in the end work against you.

    “The things you own end up owning you.”

    -T Durden

    I'm going thru this right now. I spent most of my life being able to move in 24 hours. Now I have to plan, I have to check local laws, I feel a slave to things I "own". Point is the same w/ this. Your unnecessary web enabled device "own" them too.

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  • [–] 3 points 19 hours ago (1 child)

    I feel you with the “move in 24 hours”. I made multiple international moves with one or two suitcases and an easyjet flight. Now with a family and years of accumulated possessions, last move took months of planning and a moving truck.

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