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What’s the deal between .world and .ml? (lemmy.world)
submitted 1 day ago by to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world
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In an attempt to better understand Lemmy I’m wondering if some of you can shed a light on what the deal is between.ml and .world. The history, any significant event or a betrayal, how did we all run away from spez only to come here and throw mud at each other?

I’m sure it confuses a great deal of Reddit refugees who just signed up with the largest instance because of (in my case future proofing) reasons.

I’m wondering how this historic feud came to be and how I can be called a “Zionist” just because of my instance, and they are called “fascists” even though I’ve come across some pretty levelheaded people from that instance too.

Please, keep it civil!

I’m not trying to start a fight or mud slinging, it would be good if several people could say their piece and nobody shame or attack them for it no matter how much you disagree.

Thanks

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[–] 9 points 22 hours ago* (9 children)

This obsession with east vs west is paradigmatic of tankie tribalist ideology. They can’t conceive of someone who doesn’t obsess over nationality or ethnic and cultural loyalties. Humans are humans. We should fight to be free from state oppression. Not complicated.

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  • [–] -5 points 19 hours ago

    When you guys get on board with putting a stop to the marauding, plundering, pillaging, genocide, sexual assault, genocide, and coups, not to mention wage suppression so you can have cheap gas and trinkets, those of us with a conscience would stop obsessing. Not complicated.

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  • [+] -6 points 22 hours ago (7 children)

    It's not "loyalties", but culturally informed/derived ideology and attitudes and the particular brand of propaganda people are getting. This is observable, and you're not thinking clearly about this.

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  • [–] 4 points 22 hours ago* (6 children)

    it’s not “loyalties” but … the particular brand of propaganda people are getting.

    State propaganda exists to engender loyalty to the regime. That’s the whole point.

    They are quick to jump on any “western” wrongdoing, but equally quick to dismiss much worse from their own tribe. Because they are tribalists and nationalists who favor some nations over others — because they’re brainfucked by propaganda, as you said.

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  • [–] -3 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (4 children)

    I think you missed my point.

    And uhh, maybe the actual tankies that people hate so much, but that's not what I see on .ml, at least in my limited experience. And I have no horse in this race (I've not only been banned/silenced on .ml a couple of times but I'm also a believer, which is usually frowned upon in these circles, for reasons I somewhat understand), I just see the enmity/friction between instances for what it is: traditional and dishonest Western imperialists who uphold the status quo but also care about optics (and because of the latter, would never admit it unlike their "MAGA" siblings who, being challenged, actually think being inhuman and coercive for material gain are positive attributes) and those who call them out for it. Whoever complains about "tankies on Lemmy" on the regular is just telling on themselves, basically.

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  • [–] 6 points 20 hours ago* (2 children)

    lol no. No, there aren't western operatives trying to fight tankies on Lemmy from a leftist perspective... You seriously believe it's an operation before you'd believe it's the typical tribalist infighting that occurs in nearly any diverse political group??

    Tankies just have the distinction of being massive hypocrites basically at face value of their ignorant fuckhead beliefs. Just like most any communist that unashamedly sucks off the CCP.

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